Problems with General Relativity Theory.

[Sparko]

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[Sea of red]

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4. If there is no further discussion on a point, or nobody ASKS you to post more points, then the thread simply dies.

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You know he's not going to comply, so why bother?

[Boxing Pythagoras]

You know he's not going to comply, so why bother?

Eh, let him have another chance. The mods are doing a fine job. If John can bring himself to actually follow the rules, these threads could certainly be constructive.

[JohnMartin]

Does someone want me to post another point on GR?

JM

[Boxing Pythagoras]

Does someone want me to post another point on GR?

First, I'd like you to respond to the counterpoints which I posted on the first page of the thread. Let's try to discuss the points you've already raised before we gish gallop off the other topics.

[TheLurch]

Problem 1 continued
GR is silent on the value of the Hubble constant, which infers GR is a weak theory.

GR has nothing to say about the origin or cause of dark matter or dark energy. GR is either weak, or may only infer a maths model of the universe that does not support the requirements of DM and DE in the observed universe. In short the DM and DE issue may indicate GR is not a realist model of the universe.

Quantum mechanics is silent on the value of the Hubble constant and the nature of dark matter/energy. So's the standard model. So's evolution, for that matter. None of these are weak theories. You just can't expect theories to handle things that aren't part of what they were developed to explain.

Well, i guess you can, but it would be pointless and silly.

(Also, it's "implies", not "infers". )

[Roy]

Quantum mechanics is silent on the value of the Hubble constant and the nature of dark matter/energy. So's the standard model. So's evolution, for that matter. None of these are weak theories. You just can't expect theories to handle things that aren't part of what they were developed to explain.

Or expect them not to handle things that are part of what they were developed to explain. For instance by objecting to the General Theory of Relativity on the grounds that it is General.

But given JM's proclivity for finding "Problem"s, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he objected to Relativity because it is silent on Hardy-Weinberg ratios and Moore's Law.