October 2009 SCrewballs

[MWM958]

holy crap, I don't get it. What is Freethinking exactly? Ugh, all I ever here as how I'm impede on "Free Thought".

=D

Seriously, what is it??? The same people I hear claiming to be Freethinkers and rationalists are the same ones I hear saying that Jesus didn't exist, and think that "I believe in one less god than you" is a great argument.

If freethinking is just thinking about whatever ridiculous stuff comes into your head, then count me out :P

tee hee, sorry I was a little mean, I just don't get it =D

[Chaotic Void]

The usual "nonCalvinism=salvation by works, NT Wright is a dirty heretic" spiel.

It seems kind of ironic that Calvinists are quick to bash Wright, because IIRC in his latest book, Justification, he admits that his views are closer to Calvinism than the other views.

[Kelp]

Yeah, I don't think the majority of Calvinists understand him at all. It's kind of pathetic.

[MarcusAndreas]

I see this month we're doing South Carolina Rewballs instead.

Christians are the source of all our wars.

I don’t want to associate with hypocrite radials like you and I don’t have to.

~”THOU SHALL NOT KILL”-EXODUS

~”KILL ALL SINNERS”-LEVITICUS

[MWM958]

Oh boy..... http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110248

=D

[Darth Executor]

Nomination to this upcoming movie:

http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=54422

This looks like it's gonna be on the same level of unfunny as Carlin's 10 commandments (except at least Carlin can make unfunny jokes sound funny through the way he says it, which pretty much describes his entire career). Religion is stupid/crazy, har har.

[Rational Gaze]

Nomination to this upcoming movie:

http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=54422

This looks like it's gonna be on the same level of unfunny as Carlin's 10 commandments (except at least Carlin can make unfunny jokes sound funny through the way he says it, which pretty much describes his entire career). Religion is stupid/crazy, har har.

Oh don't remind me about that awful garbage. I saw ads for it when I went to see District 9 (now THAT is a good film). I remember thinking: "Ricky Gervais, what have you done?"

[Challenger Grim]

Vox's reply to CSA is up.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/10/l...theism-ii.html

Just imagine what a tag team match with him and JP vs... any chosen atheist would be like.

[MikeWright]

Oh don't remind me about that awful garbage. I saw ads for it when I went to see District 9 (now THAT is a good film). I remember thinking: "Ricky Gervais, what have you done?"

I thought the film was brilliant - it makes the intelligent point that religion is made up to make people feel happy. Theres all kinds of funny parts like this scene with a church and outside is a sign reading: "a quite place to think about that man in the sky" Most of the cinema laughed. I also noticed christopher hitchens argument sneaked in there when somebody asks the person why their man in the sky waited millions of years before getting involved with the earth. ricky gervais says 'he forgot'. The film then ends with people waiting to die and being unhappy in the mean time-the message being tahat we are happier without reeligion. You should all go and see it.

You can read how ricky gervais became an atheist here.

[lilpixieofterror]

I thought the film was brilliant - it makes the intelligent point that religion is made up to make people feel happy. Theres all kinds of funny parts like this scene with a church and outside is a sign reading: "a quite place to think about that man in the sky" Most of the cinema laughed. I also noticed christopher hitchens argument sneaked in there when somebody asks the person why their man in the sky waited millions of years before getting involved with the earth. ricky gervais says 'he forgot'. The film then ends with people waiting to die and being unhappy in the mean time-the message being tahat we are happier without reeligion. You should all go and see it.

You can read how ricky gervais became an atheist here.

In other words, the movie is nothing more than a giant strawman of theist beliefs? Just as I thought... a good concept that is destroyed by intolerance of other ideas.

Edited to add: Wow, what a bad article full of a bunch of ignorance and stupidity. I do love the jail stats one, but I would love to see an atheist who advocates such things also state that blacks are the inferior race because there are more blacks in jail per population than whites. Currently, blacks have about 300,000 people in jail (the entire prison population is 785,000).. If we crunch those numbers we end up with about 39% of the prison population is black. We find by looking at such sources as the CIA fact book that blacks are only 12% of the US population. Therefore following the logic that Ricky has set forth, blacks must be full of criminals. Is that the position you'd like to take Mikey or are there more factors at work?

[MikeWright]

In other words, the movie is nothing more than a giant strawman of theist beliefs? Just as I thought... a good concept that is destroyed by intolerance of other ideas.

I will be generous and admit that there was one strawman in the film. In the film ricky gervais says that good people go to heaven and people who have done 3 things wrong go to hell. I thought christians believed that people who believed their man in the sky exists go to heaven and those who dont go to hell regardless of how good an atheist they were.

Is that the position you'd like to take Mikey or are there more factors at work?

Maybe black people are more likely to believe in a man in the sky?

[Andius]

I will be generous and admit that there was one strawman in the film. In the film ricky gervais says that good people go to heaven and people who have done 3 things wrong go to hell. I thought christians believed that people who believed their man in the sky exists go to heaven and those who dont go to hell regardless of how good an atheist they were.

It will do you well to cast such such ridiculous conceptions of, what gets you into heaven or hell. THAT would be progress for your case in understanding Christendom properly.

Maybe black people are more likely to believe in a man in the sky?

Oh lovely, it's bad enough that your a reaking misinformed skeptic, but was this piece of racism necessary Mikey?

[MikeWright]

Oh lovely, it's bad enough that your a reaking misinformed skeptic, but was this piece of racism necessary Mikey?

im not racist - i was explaining to one of your fellow posters what these other underlying factors in prison statistics might be.

[Challenger Grim]

im not racist - i was explaining to one of your fellow posters what these other underlying factors in prison statistics might be.

It's so fun to watch idiots try and parse statistics.

You should read the Irrational Atheist just as a primer.

From Chapter 1

I previously referenced the number of atheists being held by the
prison system of England and Wales, where it is customary to record
the religion of the prison population as part of the Inmate Information
System. In the year 2000, there were 38,531 Christians of
twenty-one different varieties imprisoned for their crimes, compared
to only 122 atheists and sixty-two agnostics. As Europe in general
and the United Kingdom in particular have become increasingly
post-Christian, this would appear to be a damning piece of evidence
proving the fundamentally criminal nature of theists while demonstrating
that atheists are indeed more moral despite their lack of a
sky god holding them to account.

However, there also happened to be another 20,639 prisoners,
31.6 percent of the total prison population, who possessed “no religion.”
And this was not simply a case of people falling through the
cracks or refusing to provide an answer; the Inmate Information System
is specific enough to distinguish between Druids, Scientologists,
and Zoroastrians as well as between the Celestial Church of God,
the Welsh Independent church, and the Non-Conformist church. It
also features separate categories for “other Christian religion,” “other
non-Christian religion,” and “not known.”

At only two-tenths of a percent of the prison population, High
Church atheists are, as previously suggested, extremely law-abiding.
But when one compares the 31.6 percent of imprisoned no-religionists
to the 15.1 percent of Britons who checked “none” or wrote in
Jedi Knight, agnostic, atheist, or heathen in the 2001 national survey,
it becomes clear that their Low Church counterparts are nearly four
times more likely to be convicted and jailed for committing a crime
than a Christian.

Funny how atheists like to claim that they are the most "rational" and "fact-based" belief even as they're very irrational and hold faith to the most erroneous falsehoods.

[lilpixieofterror]

I will be generous and admit that there was one strawman in the film. In the film ricky gervais says that good people go to heaven and people who have done 3 things wrong go to hell. I thought christians believed that people who believed their man in the sky exists go to heaven and those who dont go to hell regardless of how good an atheist they were.

ZOOM! The point says as it goes right over mikey's head. I shouldn't be surprised though, Mikey can't even grasp the simplest of concepts.

Maybe black people are more likely to believe in a man in the sky?

Oh my, so you're a racist now mikey?