Amen and the unity of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam

[Nick Ginex]

Hello Nick. I did google for your book and at first found nothing. You really should place the link in your signature line. When I switched from the title to googling your name I found it.

I certainly have not read your book but I am intrigued to know more. Ancient Egypt is something I do know a few things about that you may not have yet discovered in your research.

Why did you pose a question based on the last book of the Bible and not the first? Moses was, after all, an heir to the throne of Egypt before he went into exile.

Dear Eeset,

Sorry it took an extra effort to read about my book, Future of God Amen. My Profile offers the website you may visit to learn more about what I wrote (I am not allowed to mention my website in an open forum). You can view a Press Release by placing a search of the Internet and entering, Future of God Amen.

The book deals with the Egyptian civilzation and their development of the many concepts of God now practised within the Judaic, Christian, and Islamic religions. More importantly, it also presents a review of the scriptures of these three religions and recommendations of how religious leaders and worshippers can work together to unify their beliefs. After all, they all pray to the same God.

You are correct in knowing that Moses was brought up and raised in the house of a pharaoh. However he was not heir to the throne of Egypt because the pharaoh had other sons. The fact that Moses was not Egyptian and his features and skin tone was that of a Hebrew also made him an unlikely candidate for the throne. My book deals with this issue and many other facts that religious leaders are not interested in revealing to their followers.

The question I raised came from Revelation 3:14 where Jesus proclaimed that Amen was, "the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God." Few worshippers know this statement by Jesus and I was able to find it only through my research in writing the book.

Thank you for your response,

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Nick Ginex

[Nick Ginex]

Greetings Nick!

Perhaps I lack in communication skills but I was hoping you would see that at least on some level, I agree with you, as did Apostle Paul!

My understanding of Revelation 3:14 would probably exceed what you are looking for here. I too see Amen as meaning much more than simply 'so be it'. It see it as reflecting an affirmation of the means whereby what has been stated will 'so be'. My understanding of God and Creation is not linear, but perhaps I can engage a discussion with some linear imagery.

I do agree that there is a hidden or concealed aspect of God and a revealed aspect. From my learning and experience this hidden aspect is not knowable except through what Jesus in John 17 describes as we in the Father, versus the Father in us. Such though is way beyond this thread.

As far as Revelation 3:14...

And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write,
‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:

I would say that the Amen is not referring to that part of God which is concealed, but that part which is revealed - the Faithful and True Witness. The Faithful and True Witness to what? One might ask. I would say to that aspect of God which is concealed. And so the Amen is the revealed aspect of God, giving witness in creation of that which is concealed.

This is what else is said about this Faithful and True Witness in Revelation:

These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars:
These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”:
These things says He who holds the seven stars in His right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands:
These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword:
These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass:

All things describing God revealed in creation - the Logos.

And I would equate this to Jesus saying, if you know me you will know the Father - in other words, I am the Faithful and True Witness of the Father.

Now I do not know the Egyptain Gods well, nor have I read your book, so cannot compare or contrast this idea to what is presented there. But to summarize my ideas, I would say that Amen is referring to the aspect of God revealed in creation, the Faithful and True Witness in whom is the Power to accomplish all things!


Shalom.

Viv

Dear Vivian,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and not hiding behind quotes stated in Scripture. I believe you are able to think for yourself and we are very much on the same wavelength regarding what Jesus meant in Revelation 3:14.

After going through two years of research as I wrote Future of God Amen, I came to understand what Jesus meant in the 3:14 verse. Until then, his words had no meaning because I could not relate the past that he was strongly taught being raised by a mother who was brought up in a Jewish Temple (from Lost Books of the Bible, The Gospel of the Birth of Mary, by Saint Matthew, Chapter 1). The religious instruction of Jesus had to be exceptionally strong and he had to have learned what Jewish holy men knew about the past and the existence of Amen.

Since the year 2000 BC, Amen was used in the throne names of pharaohs. The influence of the Egyptian God Amon = Amen had a profound effect of the peoples of Palestine and Syria. The exposure to the Egyptian God occurred many centuries before Moses walked out of Egypt with the concept of one God. I am grateful that you are a woman who can be open to other avenues of thought. Certainly you can refuse to accept anything that enters your mind for consideration. But what is exceptional about you is that you are not afraid to deal with ideas new to you.

Thank you for corresponding with me. You may learn more about the book by going to my Profile and visiting my website. Also, have you seen the Press Release that can be viewed on the Internet by placing a search on, Future of God Amen?

May God bless you, Nick Ginex

[Vivian]

Dear Vivian,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and not hiding behind quotes stated in Scripture. I believe you are able to think for yourself and we are very much on the same wavelength regarding what Jesus meant in Revelation 3:14.

After going through two years of research as I wrote Future of God Amen, I came to understand what Jesus meant in the 3:14 verse. Until then, his words had no meaning because I could not relate the past that he was strongly taught being raised by a mother who was brought up in a Jewish Temple (from Lost Books of the Bible, The Gospel of the Birth of Mary, by Saint Matthew, Chapter 1). The religious instruction of Jesus had to be exceptionally strong and he had to have learned what Jewish holy men knew about the past and the existence of Amen.

Since the year 2000 BC, Amen was used in the throne names of pharaohs. The influence of the Egyptian God Amon = Amen had a profound effect of the peoples of Palestine and Syria. The exposure to the Egyptian God occurred many centuries before Moses walked out of Egypt with the concept of one God. I am grateful that you are a woman who can be open to other avenues of thought. Certainly you can refuse to accept anything that enters your mind for consideration. But what is exceptional about you is that you are not afraid to deal with ideas new to you.

Thank you for corresponding with me. You may learn more about the book by going to my Profile and visiting my website. Also, have you seen the Press Release that can be viewed on the Internet by placing a search on, Future of God Amen?

May God bless you, Nick Ginex

Indeed, Nick!

Most cannot comprehend what it took to enable the incarnation of Jesus within and among humanity! Certainly, God could have sent an angel down, but such would have not have had the same impact (overt, and hidden) as one being born in human flesh.

The Old Testament is the story of the effort by God and his angels to set a peoples apart, to set the stage, playing out in detail generation after generation - even correction when a key figure strays, such as we have with Tamar - so that the incarnation could occur. And the least of this effort is the woman to which he was born! She was a holy one, a righteous one herself, teaching Jesus from early on and preparing him as she had been empowered. The Catholics are not wrong in venerating her - for she represents the epitomy of Motherhood in God's Kingdom.

There are many revelations and writings about the training and education of Mary, and what she passed on to her most special son.

As there is much to be gleened about Jesus' teachings when one looks into what the young men of Israel were taught in that day. Such teachings are part of the Christian tradition that I follow.

You might be surprised if you go seeking in this direction. Perhaps you already have!

I must share that I am ever so touched by your heart, your intent, your motivation. Surely the pure of heart will be rewarded in their seeking. I did read the press release and wish you well in your efforts! Such prayers and intentions can only serve God's purposes for humanity.

Shalom and blessings to you, as well.

Viv

[Tanakh Keeper]

My intent is not to lecture you but to reveal what questions I would like honest and loving people assist me in finding the answers. As an open forum, we are trying to learn from one another and only by the Socratic method can we learn from honest and open discussions.

The Socratic method is a form of inquiry and debate between individuals with opposing viewpoints based on asking and answering questions to stimulate rational thinking and to illuminate ideas.

In what way does your post use the Socratic method to stimulate a discussion?

Do you think the lack of questions and the use of direct statements indicate a different method of communication?

I do not advocate that any religion is better than the other. I believe that God has introduced Himself to various groups of people at different times and in different places (countries) depending upon their need to accept the belief in one God.

Why do you believe G-d keeps changing the message?

Isn’t the eternalness of G-d supposed to demonstrate an immortal, unchanging message?

If you claim not to advocate one religion as being better than another, why do you directly advocate the words of the Christian deity in the last paragraph of your post?

If you truly believe in God, you must know He is the SAME God of the Judaic, Christian, and Islamic religions except that He is worshipped differently due to the Scriptures that have been cast in concrete. People who believe their Scripture is pure and do not need revision are living in a cage. A cage that prevents them from further growth and understanding whereby they insulate themselves from learning about God.

How can you claim to know what is in my head?

Since the three religions that you mention above have different holy books, why would you expect their religious practices to be the same?

If scriptures are not unchanging (i.e. cast in concrete), wouldn’t that make them subject to the changing whims of interpretation of human publishers and book makers?

Isn’t it better that a holy book of the past is identical to a current copy of that holy book to ensure that the Divine message is unchanged and unsullied by human editors?

There is much for we humans to understand about God. Only through an understanding of the TRUTH about the past can theology and science advance on a parallel course in our quest to know God. Are you afriad to understand what Jesus means when he proclaimed that Amen is, "the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God?

Is all science acceptable or only that science that confirms your beliefs?

Is the only valid science that which seeks to understand a divine entity?

Are you afraid to explore how your man is exactly what G-d warned us about?

Is it comforting for you to believe that Jews are blind rather than explore the exact reasons that we reject the Christian deity?

Try to understand the words of Jesus rather than hide behind the words of men who are not knowledgable about the past or refuse to allow others to explore the past. Could they be avoiding truths that challenge their beliefs?

On what basis do you claim to know everyone’s motives that disagree with your conclusion?

On what basis can you conclude that everyone that disagrees with you is automatically unknowledgeable?

Why isn’t it possible that a person became knowledgeable and reached a different conclusion from you?

Why couldn’t a person with different beliefs proclaim that you are the unknowledgeable one?

Can the avoidance of truths that challenge beliefs also apply to you?

[barnasha]

The question I raised came from Revelation 3:14 where Jesus proclaimed that Amen was, "the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God." Few worshippers know this statement by Jesus and I was able to find it only through my research in writing the book.

Statements by Jesus in other people's revelations (dreams) do not really constitute "statements by Jesus"....

[harlan]

Isn’t the eternalness of G-d supposed to demonstrate an immortal, unchanging message

Consider God as the Divine Physician Who prescribes the spiritual remedy to man's ills. Each age has its particular concerns and problems. The problems of today are very different from a thousand years ago, or two thousand or more years ago. Just as a skilled physician may prescribe an antibiotic for an infection, he will not do so for high blood pressure. Each illness requires a specific remedy. We don't accuse a physician of being inconsistent because he prescribes a different remedy for different illnesses. This same is true of God. What was true and good for mankind 3,000 years ago may not be so today. Stoning adulterers is not something we do any more. 2,000 years ago God did not provide the remedy for war. Today that would be the most needed remedy.

Harlan

[Tanakh Keeper]

Consider God as the Divine Physician Who prescribes the spiritual remedy to man's ills. Each age has its particular concerns and problems. The problems of today are very different from a thousand years ago, or two thousand or more years ago.

How are the problems today different from humankind's past problems?

[Vivian]

How are the problems today different from humankind's past problems?

In the past, mankind was consumed in his daily living with self protection and survival - needing to be self focused in order to be able to sustain his/her existence. And so the focus of the minds and hearts of men (and women!) were on just this! Self defense, self survival - not much different than the animals or the beasts of the field, and it is through this necessary need that mankind perceived God.

And it is at this level that God revealed himself to man - for this is all man was capable of seeing - Israel revealing that they - and the world - were not ready for a higher revelation at the foot of Mt Sinai with the sin of the golden calf. The Messiah thus not able to incarnate then. It took time and the spiritual evolution of the children of Israel before the Messiah could incarnate.

And so today, such focus is not necessary - most of humanity has evolved out of this need for a focus on self defense and self sustaining, able to receive a higher revelation, which was given when it became possible in Yeshua Messiah - when for the first time human flesh was able to embody the fullness of Messiah.

Now as logic and reason and experience reveal, any development or evolution is not an all at once but something that takes time. And so within humanity we see an array - from those who still function close to the level of beasts to those who are ready to be made into the image of the Messiah - embodying something of God.

And when we look at all the world's religions or spiritual traditions, we will see this array - personalities all being at different places of spiritual evolution, being drawn to the tradition that most resonates with where the they are at.

We will also see higher revelations being taken by those not quite ready for them, and reduced to the level at which they function. Taking higher revelations and using them for example to make war with their fellow man.

We see this with the revelation give to us Yeshua Messiah, as we see in the outer face of Christianity. And so I do not fault Judaism at all for rejecting this reduction of the revelation given to us in Yeshua, for it is a 'going backwards' for them.

When I studied Judaism, this became evident.

Shalom and blessings of the Messiah to all!

Viv

[Tanakh Keeper]

In the past, mankind was consumed in his daily living with self protection and survival - needing to be self focused in order to be able to sustain his/her existence.

How is this different from today? Aren't most people focused on self, earning their daily bread, and protecting their families?

[Nick Ginex]

Dear Vivian, Tanakh, Barnasha, and Harlan,

Thank you for your responses. After Tweb rejected a new thread by me titled, Jesus Proclaims the Truth, I had decided to no longer be a Tweb member. I answer your replies because you deserve a response after providing thoughtful insights in an avenue of thought few people are courageous to enter.

We are a product of what we have been taught by our teachers and religious leaders as well as the many people who enter our lives. Life is a journey and some stop in their ability to allow new ideas to enter their minds for consideration. Some people have such strong beliefs, they will not allow any deviation from what they have been taught. These are the madmen who kill innocent people because they feel their religion is the pure and only religion. This is an example of how the human mind can be trapped in a cage. A cage that inhibits the acceptance of new facts and ideas that can lead to growth in knowledge. These same madmen will even kill themselves along with other innocent people because their minds have been restricted to such a degree that reason can no longer exist in their thinking.

I will not address each of your responses individually because I don't want to lose want I have already started in this post. That is, by going back to your posts, I might lose this one. If there was a Save capability of a draft I would have been more specific.

I will agree with the one post that solutions of the past, namely scripture and its revelations, need to be improved upon like prescriptions of the past. The scriptures were inspired by righteous men who sought to give their people a moral code to live by and so improve the stability and growth of their nation. The Egyptian Priesthood, which existed for more than 3,000 years, continually revised their scriptures as they came to develop the concept of one universal God. This scripture, defining a Universal God, was written during the reign of Ramses II around 1270 BC as, "Amon as the Sole God." However, this concept was first developed by Amenhotep IV (Ikhnaton) around 1375 BC, 105 years before the Amon Priesthood finally accepted it. And it was 125 years later,1375-1250 BC, before Moses walked out of Egypt in 1250 BC with the concept of one God.

To refuse historical facts, which are more believable that the revelations or dreams of men, is to refuse to gain knowledge. When religious leaders and their followers are ready to accept the fact that Amen is a COMMON BOND , a bound that is announced in their prayers, supplications, and thanks for requested outcomes, then they will be ready to work together to unify their beliefs.

It is the organized Judaic, Christian, and Islamic religions that have caused many holy deaths and still, by their passive and silent position today, continue to incite bigotry, hatred, violence, and the killing of innocent people. Yet, the irony is that they all announce Amen and pray to the same God. We all agree that there is only one God. He is worshipped differently by dfferent nations because of their different traditions and political systems, which is reflected in their religious practices.

I wrote Future of God Amen, to inform people about a past history that they have not, in many cases, been exposed or taught. I initially wrote the book for my four daughters but realize that the information should be shared for the rest of th world. Truth is what I live by and seek in my lifetime. As a little boy I always thought of God, who He was, where did He come from, why did did He create us and the wonderful earth we inhabit? My God is the God of all people, no one people has only true god. My God is the God of te entire universe and the life forms He has created on other planets. That is why I want the message of Truth to be revealed to all people. When we have accepted that Amen was, as Jesus Christ has proclaimed, the beginning of the creation of God, we can then not be afriad to employ reason in our belief system. Reason, the basis of Science, can then allow Theology and Science proceed on a parallel path in our quest to know God. We must allow Science and our spiritual heritage be compatible for it is when we explore the wonders of the universe that we will learn to appreciate and worship our God.

Let it be known, scripture is not cast in concrete. If the Egyptian Priesthood had men who were wise enough to revise their scriptures as they evolved the concept of one God, so can our intellegent and perceptive Daughters and Sons of God assist religious leaders to revise the scriptures we use today. Note, the subtitle of Future of God Amen is, "A Call to Daughters and Sons of God." My mission, in the writing of this book is: to inform God loving people about the past of a wonderful civilization that has left us a legacy that we have not acknowledged; to recommend revisions to the scriptures of the Judaic, Christian and Islamic religions; to emphasize the New Command by Jesus Christ - love one another; that the Common Bond of Amen is the link for the Judaic, Christain, and Islamic religions to work together in an effort to unify their beliefs; to initiate support by people world-wide to establish a Council for Religious Unity that allows the major religions to have a forum needed to reach much needed agreements, educate people world-wide so that they can bring pressure on their religious institions to work together with other religions to insure they promote peace, love, and tolerance of their beliefs with the ultimate goal of unifying their belief in God.

Thank you for allowing me to enter your thoughts. Hopefully I have reached your hearts for we are all sons and daughters of God.

I wish you health, love and happiness.

Nick Ginex

[Vivian]

How is this different from today? Aren't most people focused on self, earning their daily bread, and protecting their families?

Hi TK!

I would say that most of the 5 billion human souls which populate this earth are still concerned with their safety and sustainance, being more likened to the beasts of the field. However, not all.

This world has been able to create on its own, since the coming of Yeshua Messiah, an army of righteous ones, who are able to step out of this beastial nature and pursue the essence of the Torah and Prophets - and all who have come in the Name of Adonai:

To love God with all their hearts, souls, minds, and bodies, and to love others as them self. Certainly, any can see that obedience to the Torah or commandments is not possible if one is focused on one self and one's family safety and sustenance!

But you can see, certainly, that it takes the whole of humanity to create a 'playing or living field' on earth where righteous ones who can step out of these bestial self concerns and focus on higher spiritual matters. Israel began by making one tribe free from these bestial concerns so that 1/12 of their population could pursue righteousness! But the promise was that all would be priests.

Even the fathers of Judaism recognize this as taught in the Stone Edition Chumash, that God's purpose in freeing man up from being enslaved by the requirements of just remaining alive was not so they could engage in personal entertainment, but so that they could be free to seek and serve God!

This is what has changed and is changing. Mankind as a collective is no longer forced to worry about what we will wear and what we will eat - to always be focused on our safety and sustenance, but now free to seek the Kingdom of God! Yes, there is still a portion of the world's population that has no choice but remain in constant focus on safety and sustenance, but increasingly more and more of us are free to spend increasing time and energy in seeking God and his Kingdom.

For many of us, IF we are focused on these bestial issues, it is by choice. We do not have to be.

As Yeshua taught, seek first the Kingdom of God, and the rest (or what you need for saftety and sustenance) will be provided.

May all use the freedom gifted them in today's world and seek first the Kingdom of God. Amen.

Viv

[harlan]

Now as logic and reason and experience reveal, any development or evolution is not an all at once but something that takes time. And so within humanity we see an array - from those who still function close to the level of beasts to those who are ready to be made into the image of the Messiah - embodying something of God.

I agree that any evolution takes time and some reach the mountaintop before others. Another metaphor that I think adresses your idea is that a human being reflects that to which he/she turns her face. If she turns her face heavenward, she reflects in her own soul heavenly qualities. If she turns her face towards the earth, then she reflects earthly qualities. Those who you compare to the beasts are focusing towards earthly things. I don't think that this has much to do with economic well-being. You'll find plenty of the beast types in Amercan cities driving BMW's, and you'll find many a refined and heavenly soul in African villiages.

Harlan

[Vivian]

Now as logic and reason and experience reveal, any development or evolution is not an all at once but something that takes time. And so within humanity we see an array - from those who still function close to the level of beasts to those who are ready to be made into the image of the Messiah - embodying something of God.

I agree that any evolution takes time and some reach the mountaintop before others. Another metaphor that I think adresses your idea is that a human being reflects that to which he/she turns her face. If she turns her face heavenward, she reflects in her own soul heavenly qualities. If she turns her face towards the earth, then she reflects earthly qualities. Those who you compare to the beasts are focusing towards earthly things. I don't think that this has much to do with economic well-being. You'll find plenty of the beast types in Amercan cities driving BMW's, and you'll find many a refined and heavenly soul in African villiages.

Harlan

Indeed Harlan!

There are those who express the bestial tendencies of self defense and survival, when it is no longer necessary. Thus behaving in civilization as though still in the jungle! As you so eloquently shared, keeping their faces towards the earth thus reflecting earthly qualities or the qualities of their bestial self, instead of keeping their faces looking upward and thus reflecting the heavenly qualities of their own soul, and spirit.

This is why many traditions talk of sublimating or overcoming these bestial urges or tendencies. There was a time in our evolution when these tendencies were necessary, but such in no longer the case in much of the world, and so we can put aside our beastly natures, our clinging and grasping self, and truly walk in obedience to the image of Adonai that we are taught in the tradition we follow.

Today's society is greatly changed from the days of Mt Sinai, where the chidren of Israel revealed that they - as probably the most evolved of humanity - were not yet ready to give up their beastly natures, to put aside their grasping clinging selfs which were no longer necessary for survival.

The same call goes out today - deny self, crucify the self's passions - its clinging, grasping nature, overcome the beast! I find it interesting that the beastly nature within man - which is in a constant state of fear making self protection and sustenance its top priority - interprets the biblical beast as something outside itself - something that is seeking to harm it thus justifying its own beastly tendencies.

It is in crucifying the self that we come to see that we are the beast that must be overcome - that there is really nothing to fear, the beast-self is not necessary. This is overcoming the fear of death, so that death no longer has its sting!

It is the beast that fears its own death, and thus fights and claws for its own survival.

Shalom.

Viv

[harlan]

The same call goes out today - deny self, crucify the self's passions - its clinging, grasping nature, overcome the beast! I find it interesting that the beastly nature within man - which is in a constant state of fear making self protection and sustenance its top priority - interprets the biblical beast as something outside itself - something that is seeking to harm it thus justifying its own beastly tendencies.

Viv: Again I agree with you. Baha'is are taught that we have two potential natures, one spiritual and angelic and the other low, animalistic and self-centered. Our job is to develop our higher nature and conquer our lower nature. We can't blame an outside force for our evil or animalistic deeds. However, living in a non-spiritual materialistic culture doesn't make it easy, especially for young people. The purpose of the Baha'i Faith is to bring about a more spiritual and heavenly culture on the planet which will then reflect back on individual souls who are laboring to develop their own spiritual potential. This is a process that will take centuries.

Harlan

[Tanakh Keeper]

Dear Vivian, Tanakh, Barnasha, and Harlan,

Thank you for your responses. After Tweb rejected a new thread by me titled, Jesus Proclaims the Truth, I had decided to no longer be a Tweb member. I answer your replies because you deserve a response after providing thoughtful insights in an avenue of thought few people are courageous to enter.

Don’t take it personally, Nick. I’ve had several of my posts get dinged by the moderators here as well. It’s their board, so they get to make the rules. I’ve even gotten dinged by Jewish moderators on the Judaism boards that I frequent. If you are unable to take rejection, then you probably won’t be able to post on any website but your own.

Some people have such strong beliefs, they will not allow any deviation from what they have been taught. These are the madmen who kill innocent people because they feel their religion is the pure and only religion. This is an example of how the human mind can be trapped in a cage. A cage that inhibits the acceptance of new facts and ideas that can lead to growth in knowledge. These same madmen will even kill themselves along with other innocent people because their minds have been restricted to such a degree that reason can no longer exist in their thinking.

You are exaggerating. There is a huge difference between fanatics and stubbornness. The vast majority of strong willed believers will not blow up people.

I will not address each of your responses individually because I don't want to lose want I have already started in this post. That is, by going back to your posts, I might lose this one. If there was a Save capability of a draft I would have been more specific.

Paste to Word first, make your revisions and answers, and then paste it back to Tweb.

I will agree with the one post that solutions of the past, namely scripture and its revelations, need to be improved upon like prescriptions of the past.

You want to improve on G-d’s words? How is it even possible for a mortal man like you to do that? Why should anyone accept your revisions over G-d’s original words?

When religious leaders and their followers are ready to accept the fact that Amen is a COMMON BOND , a bound that is announced in their prayers, supplications, and thanks for requested outcomes, then they will be ready to work together to unify their beliefs.

Is it a fact because you say it is?

To unify beliefs, some beliefs have to be altered and changed to fit into the whole. Whose beliefs will be altered and who gets the final say?

Yet, the irony is that they all announce Amen and pray to the same God. We all agree that there is only one God.

I don’t agree that all people worship the one G-d. Thus, your statement wrong on this thread, let alone with reality. There are several religions which explicitly believe in multiple gods. By ignoring facts that conflict with your beliefs, you seem to be in the cage that you mentioned above.

I wrote Future of God Amen, to inform people about a past history that they have not, in many cases, been exposed or taught. I initially wrote the book for my four daughters but realize that the information should be shared for the rest of th world. Truth is what I live by and seek in my lifetime.

Are you saying that you are the only person that is party to the truth or are you just trying to sell your book on Tweb?

My God is the God of all people, no one people has only true god. My God is the God of te entire universe and the life forms He has created on other planets. That is why I want the message of Truth to be revealed to all people.

Hmmm, sounds like a lot of Muslims that I’ve heard. That their religion is the one true religion for all humankind and all others are false.

When we have accepted that Amen was, as Jesus Christ has proclaimed, the beginning of the creation of God, we can then not be afriad to employ reason in our belief system.

It seems that the implied message is that no one else uses reason in their belief systems. If not, what do you mean?

Reason, the basis of Science, can then allow Theology and Science proceed on a parallel path in our quest to know God. We must allow Science and our spiritual heritage be compatible for it is when we explore the wonders of the universe that we will learn to appreciate and worship our God.

Would it interest you to know that the ideas of Judaism and Evolution do not conflict? Judaism has no problem with science and uses it closely in our religion. I just read an article in which rabbis were debating gene therapy and how it fits with Judaism.

Let it be known, scripture is not cast in concrete.

Yes and No. G-d’s direct original words as recorded in Torah can’t be changed. They are as eternal as G-d. However, the applications and interpretations of His words can be adapted to changing circumstances and technology.

Thank you for allowing me to enter your thoughts. Hopefully I have reached your hearts for we are all sons and daughters of God.

I wish you health, love and happiness.

Nick Ginex

Thank you for your posts and your wishes. All the same to you and your daughters. Hopefully, you will stay and engage in a give-and-take about your ideas and beliefs.

A parable comes to mind about a famous rabbi and his study partner. They were usually had opposing viewpoints and were very noisy and boisterous in their study. One day, the rabbi’s study partner died. The Yeshiva looked and found a new rebbe to study with him. After a few months, the old rabbi complained to the Yeshiva about his new partner. “When I raise a point, he looks in the law and finds arguments to confirm my findings. How is it possible for me to learn with a partner that keeps agreeing with me?”