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      I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      At least that's how I'd consider god's work if I was a creationist.
      " Number of world species now estimated at 1,900,000

      The Australian Government has released its report that estimates the number of species in the world. The report was prepared by Arthur Chapman for the Australian Biological Resources Study. There is still no single list of all species, but this report brings the production of such a list one step closer. With over 20,000 new species being discovered every year, and as gaps are filled, we can expect the number of species to rise above 2,000,000. At this time, EOL has about 1,500,000 different pages."

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      So, anybody have any idea of W H Y ? Why god would bother making close to two MILLION species? In as much as he could create whatever function was needed to keep the Earth up and running in any number of species he desired, you'd thing a few thousand at most would do job. But he didn't. In fact, he created species that only lasted a short time on earth. Why go to the bother?

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Austin View Post
      At least that's how I'd consider god's work if I was a creationist.
      " Number of world species now estimated at 1,900,000

      The Australian Government has released its report that estimates the number of species in the world. The report was prepared by Arthur Chapman for the Australian Biological Resources Study. There is still no single list of all species, but this report brings the production of such a list one step closer. With over 20,000 new species being discovered every year, and as gaps are filled, we can expect the number of species to rise above 2,000,000. At this time, EOL has about 1,500,000 different pages."

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      So, anybody have any idea of W H Y ? Why god would bother making close to two MILLION species? In as much as he could create whatever function was needed to keep the Earth up and running in any number of species he desired, you'd thing a few thousand at most would do job. But he didn't. In fact, he created species that only lasted a short time on earth. Why go to the bother?
      A better question is "why bother creating at all?". If you accept that God fancied creating something hugely fascinating, entertaining and grotesque in order to alleviate the boredom of the total goodness, happiness and perfection that being God entails; then you shouldn't really find anything suprising.

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      why not create 2 million species?

      basically your argument is just an argument from outrage.

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by CodewordConduit View Post
      A better question is "why bother creating at all?". If you accept that God fancied creating something hugely fascinating, entertaining and grotesque in order to alleviate the boredom of the total goodness, happiness and perfection that being God entails; then you shouldn't really find anything suprising.
      And this implies need, an emotion I think Christians would not consider to be part of god's character. Is god really in need of anything?

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      why not create 2 million species?

      basically your argument is just an argument from outrage.
      No outrage at all, just incredulity.

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Can god be a god of nothing....would he not need a creation to be god?

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Austin View Post
      No outrage at all, just incredulity.
      basically the same fallacy.

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by showmeproof View Post
      Can god be a god of nothing....would he not need a creation to be god?
      Now there's a question to mull over. Does god need a something else to qualify as a god?

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Argument from Incredulity is an informal logical fallacy where a participant draws a positive conclusion from an inability to imagine or believe the converse. The most general structure of this argument runs something like the following:

      1. I can't imagine how P could possibly be false
      2. Therefore, P.

      A simple variation on this is

      1. I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true
      2. Therefore, not-P.

      This is a fallacy because someone else with more imagination may find a way. This fallacy is therefore a simple variation of argument from ignorance. In areas such as science and technology, where new discoveries and inventions are always being made, new findings may arise at any time.
      http://skepticwiki.org/index.php/Arg...om_Incredulity

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      basically the same fallacy.
      Fallacy implies an argument, and I made no argument. All I did was lay out information, wonder about it, and ask a few questions.

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Austin View Post
      Now there's a question to mull over. Does god need a something else to qualify as a god?
      Heh... quoted from my livejournal blog from when I was 16-17 (I will not link to it, for it is spectacularly embarrassing )

      "#5 God only became God when he invented people. Before that, he had no one to worship him and therefore elevate his status to that of a deity."

      Taken from a random list of thoughts at the end of 2004.

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Austin View Post
      Fallacy implies an argument, and I made no argument. All I did was lay out information, wonder about it, and ask a few questions.
      LOL. right.

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Austin View Post
      And this implies need, an emotion I think Christians would not consider to be part of god's character. Is god really in need of anything?
      He might not need stuff, but he sure seems to ask a lot of his followers

      He supposedly has a will and desires, so I dunno - maybe someone can elaborate a bit?

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by CodewordConduit View Post

      "#5 God only became God when he invented people. Before that, he had no one to worship him
      Angels?
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Re: I'd say that 1,900,000 is a bit excessive no matter who's doin' the creatin'

      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      Angels?
      Darth I was an arrogant lil jerk back then with some serious anger issues. I totally overlooked angels because I wasn't really thinking at all. But I guess that the same applies really - he created them at some point too.

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