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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
    Rayado, I think you are reading too much into the concept of a crutch. No one suggested that you only need Him if your life is a mess. A good point in spite of this minor difference.
    This is the attitude I ran into most often in big cities. It's just how modern, busy people see Christianity, and there is a lot of overemphasis on life change in non-denominational (seeker-sensitive, but not always) megachurches.

    It's not a bad analogy; it just needs a little clarifying.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rayado View Post
      This is the attitude I ran into most often in big cities. It's just how modern, busy people see Christianity, and there is a lot of overemphasis on life change in non-denominational (seeker-sensitive, but not always) megachurches.

      It's not a bad analogy; it just needs a little clarifying.
      Unfortunately the analogy originates with those deriding Christianity.
      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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      • #18
        Yeah they are saying "You are weak so you need Christianity. I am strong and I don't."

        But they are just as weak and need the Gospel and Jesus as much as we do.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Yeah they are saying "You are weak so you need Christianity. I am strong and I don't."

          But they are just as weak and need the Gospel and Jesus as much as we do.
          For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Didn't a wise man say that it isn't the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick that need a doctor?
            If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
              It's almost like them fellas who wrote the bible had idiots using the same insults and arguments against them.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                It's almost like them fellas who wrote the bible had idiots using the same insults and arguments against them.
                As they say, the more things change...

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                • #23
                  What is it again that is new under the sun?
                  Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                  • #24
                    nada
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      I love Ecclesiastes. It's probably my favorite OT book.
                      Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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                      • #26
                        Ecclesiastes is the book that really made me curious about what God wanted from us and what our purpose is.
                        I used to wonder if it was nihlistic or anti nihlistic. I learned instead that it was realistic. Without God everything is arbitrary and terrifying.
                        With him it is a journey. It isnt always a happy or easy journey but it is one that I feel I would be incomplete without.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
                          reminds me of a line from one of my healing songs.

                          I am strong when I am on your shoulder...
                          from You Raise me up.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                            reminds me of a line from one of my healing songs.

                            I am strong when I am on your shoulder...
                            from You Raise me up.
                            "...to more than I can be."

                            Beautiful song.
                            We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore on Christ's behalf: 'Be reconciled to God!!'
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
                              This whole theme brings to mind a drawing I saw, called Tiny Light:
                              tiny_light_by_lyswen-da06yyc.jpg
                              IMO the concept is the same. God is glorified in, and He works through, our weakness.

                              ( FWIW, you can check the original here: http://fav.me/da06yyc )
                              We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore on Christ's behalf: 'Be reconciled to God!!'
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                                Didn't a wise man say that it isn't the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick that need a doctor?
                                If you'll call God become Man a "wise man" ...? (Not that He was foolish, except that thing of dying for us, but it sounds like the litothesis of the year).
                                http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

                                Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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