Leftists Forcing Their Moral Views On The Rest Of Us...

[seer]

Again!

TRENTON -- A transgender man sued a Roman Catholic hospital in New Jersey on Thursday after he says it cited religion in refusing to allow his surgeon to perform a hysterectomy procedure he said was medically necessary as part of his gender transition.

Jionni Conforti's sex and gender discrimination lawsuit comes at the same time as new regulations hailed as groundbreaking anti-discrimination protections for transgender individuals who have come under legal attack from religious groups.

http://www.nj.com/passaic-county/ind..._paterson.html

[Jaecp]

Oh the irony...

[Sparko]

pretty sure this person just went to a catholic hospital in order to have a reason to sue.

a religious hospital should have the right to operate their organization according to their religious principals. there are no shortages of hospitals in any urban location.

[seer]

pretty sure this person just went to a catholic hospital in order to have a reason to sue.

a religious hospital should have the right to operate their organization according to their religious principals. there are no shortages of hospitals in any urban location.

Right, the little fascist just wanted to attack a religious hospital. Another Hospital in the area did the surgery.

[Boxing Pythagoras]

pretty sure this person just went to a catholic hospital in order to have a reason to sue.

a religious hospital should have the right to operate their organization according to their religious principals. there are no shortages of hospitals in any urban location.

While I try to refrain from speculating as to a person's motivations, I completely agree that a religious hospital should have the right to operate according to their religious principals. If you go to a Catholic hospital, you should not be surprised that they adhere to Catholic ideals.

[Spartacus]

Not everyone lives in a city. There are some places where the only hospital within a few hours' drive is a Catholic hospital that does not offer services including abortion and sterilization. Weird thing about us Catholics, we don't like to mess with a system that is working as intended, even if most of society wants to.

But the extent to which these hospitals are Catholic is actually a kind of complicated question overall. Some Catholic hospitals are not much more than nominally Catholic; most are no longer staffed primarily by nuns, and there are probably more than a few without a single nun on staff. Some, furthermore, were not founded as Catholic, but were purchased by Catholic hospital networks over the past few decades. The hospitals may have agreed to operate according to Catholic rules, but they really don't have much substantive Catholic character to them.

Imagine if the only hospital within a day of you was owned by Jehovah's Witnesses who did not allow blood transfusions. The hypothetical stretches the imagination, but considering how preoccupied our society is with respect to sexual freedom, I don't think the analogy is that far off.

[Starlight]

I am not familiar with religious hospitals, so I am wondering what is the advantage to anyone (both the RCC and the patients) in having a Catholic hospital? Why is the RCC in the business of running hospitals and why would there be demand for them? It strikes me as weird...

[seer]

Imagine if the only hospital within a day of you was owned by Jehovah's Witnesses who did not allow blood transfusions. The hypothetical stretches the imagination, but considering how preoccupied our society is with respect to sexual freedom, I don't think the analogy is that far off.

Yes it is far off, a blood transfusion may be necessary to save a life, one can live without a sex change operation.

[Spartacus]

Yes it is far off, a blood transfusion may be necessary to save a life, one can live without a sex change operation.

Or an abortion or sterilization, yet many people today take for granted that these are medical procedures to which people have a right.

[Cerebrum123]

Or an abortion or sterilization, yet many people today take for granted that these are medical procedures to which people have a right.

Then we need to get that idea out of their heads.

[seer]

Or an abortion or sterilization, yet many people today take for granted that these are medical procedures to which people have a right.

Yet no Catholic Hospital does those or are forced to as far as I know. Even under Obama care.

[Spartacus]

Yet no Catholic Hospital does those or are forced to as far as I know. Even under Obama care.

There are some that do, or which have a special relationship with a building across the street that takes care of those things for them. I also once heard about a social worker at a Catholic hospital who had memorized the phone number of the nearest abortion clinic so that she could refer patients there.

There have also been a number of lawsuits over the past few years-- backed by the ACLU-- to try to pressure Catholic hospitals to perform abortions and sterilizations. A lawsuit to force one to perform a sex change operation really doesn't surprise me much.

[Sparko]

But the extent to which these hospitals are Catholic is actually a kind of complicated question overall. Some Catholic hospitals are not much more than nominally Catholic; most are no longer staffed primarily by nuns, and there are probably more than a few without a single nun on staff. Some, furthermore, were not founded as Catholic, but were purchased by Catholic hospital networks over the past few decades. The hospitals may have agreed to operate according to Catholic rules, but they really don't have much substantive Catholic character to them.

true. a local catholic hospital near where I used to live, merged with a university hospital and a jewish hospital. The new system was secular but each hospital kept their old names.

but some religious hospitals still operate to their religion's principals, and if they do, they should be allowed to and not interfered with by the government (first amendment)

[Sparko]

I am not familiar with religious hospitals, so I am wondering what is the advantage to anyone (both the RCC and the patients) in having a Catholic hospital? Why is the RCC in the business of running hospitals and why would there be demand for them? It strikes me as weird...

Christians started the first hospitals, Starlight. They have been in the healing business for 2000 years.

[seer]

Christians started the first hospitals, Starlight. They have been in the healing business for 2000 years.

And just look across the country - how many hospital names start with the word Saint...