Trump: Only stupid people don't want relationship with Russia

[Mountain Man]

Way back when during the Cold War when everybody was scaed about the USA & Russia nuking each other a top US general did some calculations (wind shift etc) to figure the safest place on earth should the event happen. He retired to somewhere in the far northwest of NSW.

Well that was the position back in the days before the telcom spy station (and drone control facility) known as Pine Gap was built and the Darwin rotations...

Honestly, if I ever heard that a nuclear missile was headed for the US, I'd hop in a car and drive towards the target. I'd rather get taken in the initial blast than try to survive the aftermath.

[Sparko]

Honestly, if I ever heard that a nuclear missile was headed for the US, I'd hop in a car and drive towards the target. I'd rather get taken in the initial blast than try to survive the aftermath.

Not me! I look forward to building my Mad Max car and killing mutants and zombies! ARRRRR!!!!!

[Tassman]

sigh. Tassman, everyone here knows that no matter what Trump does, you will find it the "wrong thing"

If he is friendly with Russia, why that is him working with the enemy! He must be a Russian plant!
If he is stern and harsh with Russia, why, then he is being careless and is about to get us into a nuclear war! He should never have been trusted with such power!

We should be friendly with them as much as possible, but not let them run all over us. Have a line in the sand. That is what diplomacy is all about. Don't be a door mat, but don't be the instigator either.

[MaxVel]

Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump...this according to multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings.

Citation needed. Again.

In short,

This is your shorthand for 'making a large leap'.

Yet they -and you - were more than happy for Clinton to hold office, and run for President. I consider the allegations of corruption against Clinton at least as credible as your allegations about Trump. So you're offering us a double standard.


He's the elected President, so they don't really get to choose. You're just sore because you bought the propaganda, and don't like him. You don't like Trump because he has made you look foolish. I get that. It's time to get over it. You're just making yourself look more foolish. (Who would have thought taht was possible?)

Trump has constantly defended Russia and Putin,

Citation needed.

a stated enemy of the USA,

Citation needed.

[Tassman]

Citation needed. Again.

Google it you lazy sod, it's all over the web.

Yet they -and you - were more than happy for Clinton to hold office, and run for President. I consider the allegations of corruption against Clinton at least as credible as your allegations about Trump. So you're offering us a double standard.

Personal opinion from an idiot!

He's the elected President, so they don't really get to choose. You're just sore because you bought the propaganda, and don't like him. You don't like Trump because he has made you look foolish. I get that. It's time to get over it. You're just making yourself look more foolish. (Who would have thought taht was possible?)

High confidence reports from the major Intelligence agencies is not propaganda. And there's more to come. Gratuitous invective noted. .

[elam]

US relations with foreign powers should, as per ALL sovereign nations, be in the best interests of the sovereign nation concerned.

Nice in theory, pity it isn't the reality of USA foreign policy.

[elam]

Then, thank God Hillary wasn't voted in!!!

[Tassman]

Then, thank God Hillary wasn't voted in!!!

There's nothing of this magnitude re Hilllary...we already know what the Russians had on her, the documents were leaked by Russia via Assange. But what the Russians have on Trump is, it seems, far more compromising.

"Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/po...report-russia/

[elam]

High confidence reports from the major Intelligence agencies is not propaganda.

The FBI & CIA are said to have high confidence. However, the NSA, which is universally seen as more credible, says it only has moderate confidence. For whatever reason the other 11 intelligence services in the USA, especially the ones that specialise in Cyber crime, are mute.

Multple Cyber specialists (eg: McAfee) & ex-CIA intelligence officers & other international intelligence agencies are skeptical of the findings.Such is well documented in the foreign press but not necessarily in your USA right-wing rags.

How the U.S. Hobbled Its Hacking Case.. - January, 6,2017

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-truthers.html

[elam]

There's nothing of this magnitude re Hilllary...we already know what the Russians had on her, the documents were leaked by Russia via Assange. But what the Russians have on Trump is, it seems, far more compromising.

"Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/po...report-russia/

Hillary is known to owe multiple foreign entities. She is also known for her duplicity and corruption. If Russia had anything on Trump, given his raucous personality, he'd be out to get Russia, discrediting Putin at every turn...

The very fact that he is cautious in his rapprochement with Russia demonstrates he has nothing to fear. Even more so, the Russians are very fearful of Trump - they see him as unpredictable...an unknown,,,

[Darth Ovious]

Google it you lazy sod, it's all over the web.

Your claim, so it's your duty to support it

Personal opinion from an idiot!

Ad hom?

High confidence reports from the major Intelligence agencies is not propaganda. And there's more to come. Gratuitous invective noted. .

Not very useful information for blackmailing purposes if all the US intelligence services already know about it. The UK government already know my financial standings as part of my security clearance check, it's not really that big of a deal.

[MaxVel]

Google it you lazy sod, it's all over the web.

Big baby wants to argue by assertion, huh? Can't provide sources for your own claims? We are expected to accept this stuff just on your say so?

Personal opinion from an idiot!

Like your whole argument in the post I responded to. Unsupported personal opinion. When I ask you to support your claims, you get all prissy and start the insults. What a loser you are. Are you going to bitch and whine for the next four years, non stop?

High confidence reports from the major Intelligence agencies is not propaganda. And there's more to come. Gratuitous invective noted. .

Dummy, the propaganda was all the stuff the MSM was spouting about how Trump couldn't win the election, how he was Hitler and KKK and racist and sexist and hiding his taxes and on and on.... Yet he won. You bought it all, and Trump won, and made you look and feel like a fool, hence your motional outbursts.

[Tassman]

Hillary is known to owe multiple foreign entities. She is also known for her duplicity and corruption.

So you say.

If Russia had anything on Trump, given his raucous personality, he'd be out to get Russia, discrediting Putin at every turn...

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/0...s-intelligence

This is completely in tune with what we already know about Trump's lewd bragging about using fame for crude sexual assaults on women.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ecording-women

The man's an immoral buffoon. You'd better get used to these stories...they're clearly going to continue until such time as Trump's impeached.

[Mountain Man]

The report has already been debunked as fake news.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...rgeting-trump/

Even CNN itself quietly admitted that the memos have not actually been verified. This is a quote from CNN: "At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations."

Actually, the memos have been kicking around for six-months, but nobody would touch them because they couldn't be corroborated. One of the key claims that Trump and Cohen his attorney visited Russia has been explicitly refuted because Cohen was visiting his son's college at the time.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-never-russia/

[Mountain Man]

To put it another way, they have about as much credibility as Dan Rather's "fake but accurate" Bush memos.