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    Atheists arenít allowed to run for office in Texas

    Every year for as long as I can remember Law faculties around the world review archaic laws & silly laws still on the statute books in their jurisdiction. The funniest are usually published in January each year. I went looking today, but I guess this years batch hasn't been released yet...so here is a blast from the past...

    * Atheists arenít allowed to run for office in Texas. Though the Lone Star State prohibits ďreligious testsĒ as a qualification for candidates, anyone wishing to run for office must acknowledge the existence of a ďSupreme BeingĒ.
    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/st...15-3?r=US&IR=T

    The Texas Post (December 3, 2014)
    http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-dail...fice-in-texas/

    "Politics can frequently devolve into absurdity, but the race for the Austin City Council seat in the newly-created District 4 has been remarkably absurd in ways, in fact, that highlight some of the weird things about the entire state of Texas. Or, at least, its constitution..."

    (In the race one aspirant accused another of being a self confessed atheist. The accusation based on a paper he'd written many years before. The accuser cited the Constitution of Texas to make the case that the accused should be dismissed from the contest.)

    "[The accused] denies being an atheistóhe told the Statesman that he considers himself a Catholicóand that the paper was ďmore about finding spirituality than losing itĒ...

    [The accuser] is correct that the language [of] the Texas Constitution [prohibits an atheist from holding public office], but that doesnít mean that an atheistówhich, itís worth reiterating, [the accused] says he is notóis actually barred from holding office in Texas. Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, in the No Religious Test Clause, makes clear that restrictions like the one in Texas are unconstitutional.

    All of which raises an important question: If that restriction is unconstitutional, whatís it doing in the Texas Constitution?"

    ...officeholders [can] believe in a Supreme Being of [any] sort (whether it be the Judeo-Christian God, Zeus, a hodgepodge of cobbled-together bits of freshman-year philosophy, The Force, etc), but the requirement in Texas has never been successfully challenged in court, because no candidate has ever been denied the opportunity to serve because of it....

    ...Itís a little strange, admittedly, for the Texas Constitution to still have an obviously unenforceable, unconstitutional bit of language..."
    Last edited by elam; 01-11-2017 at 03:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elam View Post
    All of which raises an important question: If that restriction is unconstitutional, whatís it doing in the Texas Constitution?"
    Because the people in Texas are insane?

    Fun fact: In Norway, the word "texas" was adopted into their language to mean 'insane' or 'completely crazy', due to the popularity of Texan cowboy movies in Norway in the 50s, and it is still a widely used term in Norwegian.

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    Several states have similar laws.None of these states actively enforce these laws because any attempt to do so would certainly be swiftly overturned by the courts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Because the people in Texas are insane?

    Fun fact: In Norway, the word "texas" was adopted into their language to mean 'insane' or 'completely crazy', due to the popularity of Texan cowboy movies in Norway in the 50s, and it is still a widely used term in Norwegian.
    The Norwegian meaning of Texan just might explain CP - Only jiving you CP
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    Did you know that in NZ you can be fined $1 million for letting off a nuclear explosions?

    Here is a funny site about real laws.
    http://www.dumblaws.com/law/1641
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    Here in Oz, the weirdest laws tend to be in Victoria but here in NSW we still have some archaic laws on the statute books. Back when at start of year the NSW law faculty would do some outlandish pranks to bring the silliness to public attention. The pranks seem to have stopped a while back - probably the govt passed some public nuisance legislation.

    For your amusement, here are some of Oz's weirdest laws - both mythical & real...
    http://www.news.com.au/national/cour...1a940f39e07b93

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    Quote Originally Posted by elam View Post
    The Norwegian meaning of Texan just might explain CP - Only jiving you CP
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    Did you know that in NZ you can be fined $1 million for letting off a nuclear explosions?
    The easy solution to this is to blow up the courthouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elam View Post
    Did you know that in NZ you can be fined $1 million for letting off a nuclear explosions?
    New Zealand has been a "Nuclear Free Zone" since the 80s. Stationing nuclear weapons here, testing them, and using nuclear power, is banned. The law you cite bans the testing of nuclear weapons, which is something that used to happen in Australia and which France used to do on south-pacific islands within its control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    The easy solution to this is to blow up the courthouse.
    Ah! That would be counter productive. We'd still have lawyers & politicians (many of whom have legal backgrounds).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    New Zealand has been a "Nuclear Free Zone" since the 80s. Stationing nuclear weapons here, testing them, and using nuclear power, is banned. The law you cite bans the testing of nuclear weapons, which is something that used to happen in Australia and which France used to do on south-pacific islands within its control.
    All very true. But is the law still on the statute books?

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    In any case, unless NZ has become very backward in its health systems, nuclear experimentation is still carried out in NZ. Have you not heard of Nuclear Medicine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    New Zealand has been a "Nuclear Free Zone" since the 80s. Stationing nuclear weapons here, testing them, and using nuclear power, is banned. The law you cite bans the testing of nuclear weapons, which is something that used to happen in Australia and which France used to do on south-pacific islands within its control.
    That's too bad, I think NZ would make a great nuclear weapon testing ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elam View Post
    All very true. But is the law still on the statute books?
    Yes, NZ is still nuclear weapon and nuclear power free by law. This continues to cause ongoing problems with our military alliance with the US, because it means their warships cannot dock here.

    In any case, unless NZ has become very backward in its health systems, nuclear experimentation is still carried out in NZ. Have you not heard of Nuclear Medicine?
    Radioactive materials can be used in medicine and for scientific research. What is banned is nuclear weapons and nuclear power.

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