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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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This is getting better and better. After Trump slammed CNN as a fake news organization at the press conference, CNN releases a statement desperately trying to distance themselves from the Buzzfeed memos:
And now Buzzfeed is trying to avoid a feud with CNN after the network's harsh criticism of Buzzfeed's ethics...
That's right, Trump actually has the media turning on each other! Amazing!Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThis is getting better and better. After Trump slammed CNN as a fake news organization at the press conference, CNN releases a statement desperately trying to distance themselves from the Buzzfeed memos:
And now Buzzfeed is trying to avoid a feud with CNN after the network's harsh criticism of Buzzfeed's ethics...
That's right, Trump actually has the media turning on each other! Amazing!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThey are like a bunch of old women gossiping. "Oh Sally! Did you hear about Trump? Why, I heard he had girls pee on the bed Obama slept in! YES! It must be true because Donna's friend, Marsha, her gardener said her friend who works in the hotel saw it with her very own eyes!"Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI listened to most of Trump's press conference today, and he handled himself like a pro. Very calm and cool, well-spoken, and he easily shut down every reporter who tried to get any mileage out of the false allegations. And he had fewer "um's" and "ah's" in 20-minutes than Obama has in a single sentence.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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CNN continues to play the "It wasn't us, it was all Buzzfeed's fault!" game. i don't know if I've ever seen them so desperate to salvage their credibility.
Of course anybody who's read the original report knows they reported on the memos earnestly, as if there was a good chance the information was credible. Here are the opening paragraphs from CNN's original report:
Saying that "The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations" certainly makes it sound like this report is actionable, doesn't it? And saying that they "[have] not confirmed many of the essential details in the memos" makes it sound like other details were confirmed, which is a far cry from the truth that none of the details, essential or otherwise, were confirmed at the time.
And now we're hearing that the Michael Cohen mentioned in the memos is not Trump's attorney but someone from a different country who happened to have the same name.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostCNN continues to play the "It wasn't us, it was all Buzzfeed's fault!" game. i don't know if I've ever seen them so desperate to salvage their credibility.
Of course anybody who's read the original report knows they reported on the memos earnestly, as if there was a good chance the information was credible. Here are the opening paragraphs from CNN's original report:
Saying that "The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations" certainly makes it sound like this report is actionable, doesn't it? And saying that they "[have] not confirmed many of the essential details in the memos" makes it sound like other details were confirmed, which is a far cry from the truth that none of the details, essential or otherwise, were confirmed at the time.
And now we're hearing that the Michael Cohen mentioned in the memos is not Trump's attorney but someone from a different country who happened to have the same name.
*I didn't really count them as one anyway, but still.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post(...) Under that guideline someone could say that Trump is really a bunch of Ninja Squirrel Assassins in a human suit and due to the seriousness of such an allegation if true it must be officially investigated.We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore on Christ's behalf: 'Be reconciled to God!!'- 2 Corinthians 5:20.
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John McCain is junk. I suspect him of being a traitorous anti American.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Ha! Now MSNBC is trying to prop up its brand by going after Buzzfeed!
I like how Ben Smith laments that it used to be easier to get away with this sort of thing before the internet.
I suspect Buzzfeed thought they would get a lot more mileage out of this story and that their allies in the media would have their back. Instead the report was immediately debunked, Trump owned today's press conference, and Buzzfeed is being thrown under the bus by their media allies. In short, Ben Smith is having a very bad day.Last edited by Mountain Man; 01-11-2017, 08:14 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOr earlier with charges back in 1980 that the elder George Bush went to Europe to meet with Iranian leaders to schedule an October Surprise (concerning the release of 52 Americans held hostage by Iran). Even after being completely debunked Democrats were still calling for investigations not based on the facts but on the "seriousness" of the charges. Under that guideline someone could say that Trump is really a bunch of Ninja Squirrel Assassins in a human suit and due to the seriousness of such an allegation if true it must be officially investigated.
I'm sure he would have had the same opinion if Hillary won and someone claimed without a shred of evidence that she had Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds knocked off. We need an official investigation because of the seriousness of the charge.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOn one of the MSM evening news broadcasts I heard a Congressman make the same sort of argument concerning rumors (which everyone agrees are unsubstantiated), that the Russians have stuff on Trump that they're going to use to blackmail him with, that was made about Bush which was forget the fact that there is no evidence and preliminary investigations found the story to be full of holes, this needs to be investigated because of the seriousness of the allegation.
I'm sure he would have had the same opinion if Hillary won and someone claimed without a shred of evidence that she had Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds knocked off. We need an official investigation because of the seriousness of the charge.
That should shake things up a bit, and Donald could drag the investigation out for the next four years...to keep McCain and Trump's other enemies in check...
It is rumoured (suggested in some reports) that McCain and other anti-Trump Republican's conspired to disseminate the dozier knowing it to be fake and even invented a fictitious background story (MI6 etc) to give the dozier credabiity....
One commentator observed that the debunking of this latest fake news has put the intelligence agencies and news portals on the back foot = their credibility has been totally compromised...Last edited by elam; 01-11-2017, 11:50 PM.
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You can get a glimpse at what the media had planned with this early report from Esquire with its mocking "Haha! We've really got him• Edited by a Moderator • now!" tone:
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...ussia-twitter/
I don't think liberals were expecting this story to blow up in their faces, at least not as quickly and with the volatility that it did. This was THE story early yesterday morning. I didn't hear a peep about it this morning on my drive in to work. I think we might be looking at the biggest narrative backfire since Hillary's speechwriter came up with that "basket of deplorables" line.Last edited by Jedidiah; 01-12-2017, 11:02 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Not sure if the memos link had been listed above:
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...legations.html
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