Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill

[Jedidiah]

https://hudson.house.gov/press-relea...iprocity-bill/

[Cow Poke]

Interesting - I wonder how this will resolve whatever differences exist between issuing states.

I guess that's addressed here... (OP's cite)

[Boxing Pythagoras]

Oh, man... While I really, really hope this goes through, I won't be holding my breath.

I live in New Jersey. While the state pays lip-service to permitting concealed carry, in practice, it's very rare for a person to receive such a permit (unless they are retired Law Enforcement). However, even as a non-resident, I could get a Florida concealed carry permit. If reciprocity is passed, I'll finally have a realistic means for concealed carry in my home state.

Again, I won't be holding my breath until it looks like this is more likely to pass, but this could be really good news for 2A supporters in NJ.

[seer]

https://hudson.house.gov/press-relea...iprocity-bill/

Amen, about time!

[robrecht]

So much for states' rights or the 10th Amendment when 'conservatives' control the federal government.

[seer]

So much for states' rights or the 10th Amendment when 'conservatives' control the federal government.

That is a completely stupid statement. Should First Amendment rights be different from state to state? Should some states be able to restrict First Amendment rights?

[robrecht]

That is a completely stupid statement. Should First Amendment rights be different from state to state? Should some states be able to restrict First Amendment rights?

Is there a strict constructionist reading of the Second Amendment regarding concealed carry? If I recall correctly, you do not believe that anyone convicted of a crime using a handgun should retain the right to bear arms--that too would contradict such a strict constructionist reading of the 2nd amendment.

You do not feel that the states have a right to govern themselves with respect to this matter?

[Cow Poke]

So much for states' rights or the 10th Amendment when 'conservatives' control the federal government.

The analogy in the "one pager" is pretty good, actually - that you don't lose your right to drive in Oklahoma, for example, simply because you are licensed to drive in Texas, and happen to cross the state line.

Would you prefer that your state-issued driver's license be honored only in the state in which you reside / it was issued?

[robrecht]

The analogy in the "one pager" is pretty good, actually - that you don't lose your right to drive in Oklahoma, for example, simply because you are licensed to drive in Texas, and happen to cross the state line.

Would you prefer that your state-issued driver's license be honored only in the state in which you reside / it was issued?

No, but I would prefer consistency on the part of those who argue for strict constructionist interpretations and states' rights.

[Cow Poke]

Is there a strict constructionist reading of the Second Amendment regarding concealed carry? If I recall correctly, you do not believe that anyone convicted of a crime using a handgun should retains the right to bear arms--that too would contradict such a strict constructionist reading of the 2nd amendment.

You do not feel that the states have a right to govern themselves with respect to this matter?

The state that issued the carry license, upon notification that the licensee has committed a crime worthy of revocation of the license, would obviously revoke the license, and the reciprocity would be moot - there wouldn't be any.

[Cow Poke]

No, but I would prefer consistency on the part of those who argue for strict constructionist interpretations and states' rights.

This bill appears to seek that consistency with regards to drivers' licenses.

[robrecht]

The state that issued the carry license, upon notification that the licensee has committed a crime worthy of revocation of the license, would obviously revoke the license, and the reciprocity would be moot - there wouldn't be any.

So you would allow for states to issue carry licences? Why? If it is an all-pervasive federal right guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution, why would the states have any right or role whatsoever in the issuance of any licensees?

[robrecht]

This bill appears to seek that consistency with regards to drivers' licenses.

There is no provision in the US Consitution or Bill of Rights with respect to driving automobiles so your analogy is flawed.

[Cow Poke]

So you would allow for states to issue carry licences? Why?

Same reason they issue drivers' licenses.

If it is an all-pervasive federal right guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution, why would the states have any right or role whatsoever in the issuance of any licensees?

You may be hitting here on the difference between a privilege and a right, perhaps?

[Cow Poke]

There is no provision in the US Consitution or Bill of Rights with respect to driving automobiles so your analogy is flawed.

Allowing that driving is a privilege and carrying a handgun for self defense is a right, you may have a valid point.