What are the chances of the left causing significant property damage and violence at the Inauguration? For instance from my small state there are 80 buses of radicals, mostly feminists, going down to DC. And they certainly are not going to celebrate the new administration. It could be potentially be bad.
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhat are the chances of the left causing significant property damage and violence at the Inauguration? For instance from my small state there are 80 buses of radicals, mostly feminists, going down to DC. And they certainly are not going to celebrate the new administration. It could be potentially be bad.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhat are the chances of the left causing significant property damage and violence at the Inauguration? For instance from my small state there are 80 buses of radicals, mostly feminists, going down to DC. And they certainly are not going to celebrate the new administration. It could be potentially be bad.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Of course, conservative activist/fraudster James O'Keefe has already been caught on video trying to bribe liberals to riot at Trump's inauguration. So if there is violence it will be hard to know whether it's violence conservatives have paid for to try and 'prove' their narrative that liberals are violent, or whether it's actual sincere opposition to Trump."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostOf course, conservative activist/fraudster James O'Keefe has already been caught on video trying to bribe liberals to riot at Trump's inauguration. So if there is violence it will be hard to know whether it's violence conservatives have paid for to try and 'prove' their narrative that liberals are violent, or whether it's actual sincere opposition to Trump.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think it really reveals the soul of the left.
My personal view would be that people always have the right of protest against the government. That is a fundamental human right and something that should always be respected and fully tolerated so long as it is non-violent. If they choose to use violence, then the government has every right to respond appropriately and proportionately, but has strong obligation to its citizenry to not respond with disproportionate force and to allow the protesters to be heard.
I think history shows that the use of violence by protest movements ultimately makes them much less successful than a commitment to non-violence, because what is really the goal in such movements is to win the hearts and minds of the majority of the citizenry and the use of violence has a strong negative effect as to how citizens view the movements.
I think the incoming Trump administration in total has crossed the line into utterly unacceptable and think that US citizens en masse should refuse to recognize the incoming administration, boycott it, and protest it, and think countries around the world should refuse to recognize it and threaten sanctions. It appears it will be the worst administration in US history, and so I think if violence is ever justifiable in protest then it would be justifiable now.
But, apart from my strong commitment to the validity of anti-government protests and the ("first amendment") right of citizens to express anti-government opinions, I don't see anything much of that as coming from any deeply held leftist principles on my part. It's more just me thinking "hmmm, well there are pros and cons, etc". It's not any deep "revealing the soul of the left". There are plenty of people on the left who think that people have an obligation to "respect the outcome of the democratic process" etc (e.g. as Hillary has been quoted here extensively as saying), and hence not even say "boo" in challenge to Trump. I would be more on that side if I thought for a second that the US had a respectable democratic process, and if it weren't the case that it had massive gerrymandering to favor the Republicans, massive voter suppression to favor the Republicans, an absurd electoral college system to favor the Republicans, and if Clinton (as much as I hate her) hadn't actually won the popular vote, etc.Last edited by Starlight; 01-15-2017, 06:23 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostOf course, conservative activist/fraudster James O'Keefe has already been caught on video trying to bribe liberals to riot at Trump's inauguration. So if there is violence it will be hard to know whether it's violence conservatives have paid for to try and 'prove' their narrative that liberals are violent, or whether it's actual sincere opposition to Trump.
Check out some of their other hard-hitting stories like how to make a TRON pie that glows in UV light!
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Or how dogs "won" the internet over cats at the same time Trump announced his presidency!
http://boingboing.net/2017/01/13/fac...n-the-int.htmlSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd BoingBoing.net is a reputable source of information, is it?
Check out some of their other hard-hitting stories like how to make a TRON pie that glows in UV light!
http://boingboing.net/2017/01/09/glo...postthumbnails
Or how dogs "won" the internet over cats at the same time Trump announced his presidency!
http://boingboing.net/2017/01/13/fac...n-the-int.html"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]20467[/ATTACH]"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostThe story was reported by other outlets and the video exists.
But without more context, we really don't know the point of the video. Was he really trying to encourage lefties to protest (to what end?), or was how showing how certain groups were willing to accept payment to pose as a "grassroots protest", which would then cast doubt on all similar protests?
Then there's the fact that celebrities like Michael Moore and Joss Whedon have been calling for protests, and there are already a number of groups online trying to coordinate inauguration day protests, such as:
http://www.disruptj20.org/
https://www.facebook.com/events/1224315147611443/
A number of violent protests have already occurred across the country, both before and after the election, not to mention Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter, and so on, I don't think it's hard at all to know that liberals are inherently violent when they don't get their way.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Scotland's Sunday Herald has it right with regard to Trump's Inauguration day:
Last edited by Starlight; 01-15-2017, 07:02 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYet you chose to link us to BoingBoing.net."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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