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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Since we're being pedantic....



    It's "attorneys general", and Obama only has one. (And only for a few more days )
    He only has one at a time but he has had more than one over time. If you really want to be pedantic.
    βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
    ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

    אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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    • #17
      Originally posted by robrecht View Post
      He only has one at a time but he has had more than one over time. If you really want to be pedantic.
      True dat. But I did say "he only has one", not "he's only had one". I guess there's a point were even pedanticalism can be pedantic.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        True dat. But I did say "he only has one", not "he's only had one". I guess there's a point were even pedanticalism can be pedantic.
        But you were attempting to correct Starlight on that point when he was not wrong about Obama having had more than one attorney general.
        βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
        ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

        אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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        • #19
          Originally posted by robrecht View Post
          But you were attempting to correct Starlight on that point when he was not wrong about Obama having had more than one attorney general.
          I was being pedantic for the sake of being pedantic. The fact is that it is "attorneys general", not "attorney generals".
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            There's no good reason for marijuana to be illegal. And I'd rather deal with a pothead over a drunk or meth addict/crackhead any day. In my view, allowing people who want to get high the chance to legally purchase and consume marijuana isn't a bad thing, since practically every other drug they might chose is worse (both for society in general and for the individual user).

            Also, I'd rather potheads be able to trace the provenance of their weed and buy locally. I'd rather the money spent stay local, and the government be able to tax the sale of marijuana, rather than the money going to Mexican drug cartels and fueling the violence that our southern neighbors experience (and that is increasingly bleeding across our borders).
            "If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship

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            • #21
              Originally posted by robrecht View Post
              Conservatives favor states' rights except when they are in control of the federal government.
              This is incorrect. Conservatives who favor states' rights are pretty consistent about doing so.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                The fact is that it is "attorneys general", not "attorney generals".
                I considered that but deliberately chose the latter spelling as I disapprove of the weirdness of the first, and since language is made correct by common usage, enough people changing their usage will change the language.

                And as robrecht has kindly pointed out, Obama has had more than one such person over his time in office, hence the plural.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by myth View Post
                  There's no good reason for marijuana to be illegal.
                  At least while cigarettes and alcohol are legal. Considering marijuana is less dangerous than either, it's tough to justify the less dangerous drug being illegal whereas the more dangerous ones are just fine and dandy. Considering the unlikelihood of criminalizing alcohol or tobacco, it seems more reasonable to legalize the less harmful one.

                  And as far as I can tell, the majority of potentially negative medical effects of marijuana are when they're used by younger people, so legalization seems entirely reasonable if an age requirement is set.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                    By this logic, all sorts of goofy laws that are still technically on the books should be enforced. In Alaska, do you think people should be charged with the crime of looking at a moose from an aircraft? (that is apparently actually against the law)
                    To be consistent, yes. This is why we need to think twice before passing a law and spend more time removing laws that are antiquated off the books. Every now and then I read about a case where the prosecutor dug up a forgotten law from 20, 30, or more years ago and applied it.
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                    • #25
                      I think the federal law should be enforced. But I'm evil that way. Muhahaha!

                      On the other hand, I have no problem with repealing the law... except for the fact that I can't stand the smell of marijuana. That's a personal quirk, though.
                      Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
                        except for the fact that I can't stand the smell of marijuana. That's a personal quirk, though.
                        I can't either. I think it smells like extreme body odor, but worse.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
                          I think the federal law should be enforced. But I'm evil that way. Muhahaha!

                          On the other hand, I have no problem with repealing the law... except for the fact that I can't stand the smell of marijuana. That's a personal quirk, though.
                          Much like pipe tobacco it has radically different odors -- some rather pleasant others noticeably less so.
                          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          I can't either. I think it smells like extreme body odor, but worse.
                          Back when I indulged there was something that came on the scene called "skunk weed" with an incredibly pungent smell. I dropped by my mothers for some reason while having a joint in my coat pocket. I was sitting 6-7' away from my mother when she asked me to check to see if the dog had pooped in the house. That was how strong it smelled.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            This is incorrect. Conservatives who favor states' rights are pretty consistent about doing so.
                            Of course. I was being somewhat facetious. There are indeed many conservatives who consistently favor states' rights, but there are also those who are not so consistent and who may seize upon federal powers as a means to justify their ends. It was only the latter whom I was challenging. Sorry if my imprecision offended you.
                            βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
                            ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

                            אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by robrecht View Post
                              Of course. I was being somewhat facetious. There are indeed many conservatives who consistently favor states' rights, but there are also those who are not so consistent and who may seize upon federal powers as a means to justify their ends. It was only the latter whom I was challenging. Sorry if my imprecision offended you.
                              I wasn't offended; I was merely offering a corrective to your broad brush. There are those of just about every ideological stripe who would be willing to use federal powers as a means to justify their ends.
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                              • #30
                                To the full extent of said law.
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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