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  • #31
    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    You sure you wanna use that word?
    Ummmm.... does it mean something I don't know? We used to say that as kids.


    ETA: I went ahead and edited it, cause it appears in the urban dictionary as something we never ever associated it with. Thanks, Rob!
    Last edited by Cow Poke; 01-22-2017, 08:07 AM.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Obviously conservatives here are going to keep repeating that for far longer than I can be bothered replying to it. But, for the record, I do not agree that it is a true statement.
      Denial of reality has a name: You're delusional. Trump won, that is why he has just been sworn in as President.

      Originally posted by Starlight
      Hillary got more votes. Therefore Hillary won.
      Delusional. The American system is not based on winning the popular vote, but on winning the elctoral colleges. Trump comfortably won that, therefore he won. End. of. story.


      Originally posted by Starlight
      The American electoral system is utterly absurdly corrupt, rigged, and undemocratic in the extreme. Due to the absurdities of the current American system that are in absolute urgent need of fixing, the winner of the election (Hillary) was not sworn in as president. Hillary won, Trump was appointed president. Which shows the US is pretty 3rd-world when it comes to democracy really.
      Please cite a post from before the election where you raised this specific issue (electoral college v popular vote). If you can't then you are someone who only complains about the rules when they do't like the result.

      We call people like that 'sore losers', ' bad sports', 'cheats', 'spoilt babies', 'dishonest and insincere', and so on. Such behaviour reveals a serious character flaw, a lack of maturity, and a refusal to honour one's word and commitments.

      If the contest had been 'whoever wins the popular vote is President' then, obviously, both candidates would have campaigned differently, and many voters would have voted differently. So we can't know who would have won the popular vote. Trump won the actual contest that was held, and so he is the legitimate President.
      ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        It's almost as bad as, say, appointing a serial tax cheater as Treasury Secretary.
        Or a technologically incompetent elderly lady with a dubious 'charity' that receives significant funds from all sorts of foreign entities as your Secretary of State.
        ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Hillary got more votes. Therefore Hillary won.
          This demonstrates your profound ignorance of the American Political system. It's about the electoral college. Both sides knew that "going in". Both sides focused all their strategy on "winning the right states" - getting the 'magic 270'.

          Trump is president because he got more electoral college votes than Hillary, in spite of the best efforts of the liberal media. Even Hillary's own husband - a political expert - tried to tell her she was making a big mistake.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              I think it's good if people are educated and qualified for their positions.

              I don't think a general all-purpose position like a presidency is one where special qualifications are needed though, only a general knowledge of politics and policy (which Trump doesn't have). I think Obama was okayish as President, but I don't think his law qualifications were overly relevant. During the primaries I also flatly rejected the relevance of Hillary's obsession with being the 'most qualified' presidential candidate ever.
              By that logic; Obama must not have been educated enough to be president. I know you're next trying to write off the clear end of your logic off, but Obama was only a US Senator for two years and held no other position before becoming president, so please explain how that made Obama more qualified than Trump after you've done explaining how a PhD makes one more qualified.
              Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 01-22-2017, 08:32 AM.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • #37
                Only reason I read Dimbulb's posts is to laugh at his ignorance.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  Only reason I read Dimbulb's posts is to laugh at his ignorance.
                  I personally can't wait to see an explanation for how a PhD makes someone qualified to be in the presidential cabinet, but not president.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • #39
                    I get the impression that Dimbulb is very young and idealistic and has lived a sheltered life. He just doesn't act like someone who has experience in the real-world.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      I get the impression that Dimbulb is very young and idealistic and has lived a sheltered life. He just doesn't act like someone who has experience in the real-world.
                      Wouldn't doubt it. Education is important, but I'd rather serve under a leader with practical experience vs just education. Not everything in the field pans out to what school teaches us. I say this as someone who has been to college and knows this through experience. There's a reason doctors have years of training in teaching hospitals before practicing medicine on their own. Education is important, but not only means to find talented people.
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                        I personally can't wait to see an explanation for how a PhD makes someone qualified to be in the presidential cabinet, but not president.
                        Not surprised you don't understand. The President nominates to his cabinet, experts in their respective fields, experts that he can trust, in order that they can better inform him. Unlike Trump, Obama, believes in science, not in his own unlearned opinion. For instance, why would Trump nominate an environmental expert to run the EPA when he already thinks he knows that climate change is a hoax, in his self righteous ignorance he can just nominate someone like Scott Pruitt who is as ignorant about environmental issues as is Trump. No harm done, its a hoax anyway. Scott Pruit quote at the Congressional hearings. "My own opinion doesn't matter." If he doesn't know anything, then what is he there for?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Not surprised you don't understand. The President nominates to his cabinet, experts in their respective fields, experts that he can trust, in order that they can better inform him. Unlike Trump, Obama, believes in science, not in his own unlearned opinion. For instance, why would Trump nominate an environmental expert to run the EPA when he already thinks he knows that climate change is a hoax, in his self righteous ignorance he can just nominate someone like Scott Pruitt who is as ignorant about environmental issues as is Trump. No harm done, its a hoax anyway. Scott Pruit quote at the Congressional hearings. "My own opinion doesn't matter." If he doesn't know anything, then what is he there for?
                          And a PhD automatically makes an expert because...
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                            And a PhD automatically makes an expert because...
                            Ah lets see, what makes an expert? Someone educated, someone with great knowledge and experience in their particular field of study.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                              Wouldn't doubt it. Education is important, but I'd rather serve under a leader with practical experience vs just education. Not everything in the field pans out to what school teaches us. I say this as someone who has been to college and knows this through experience. There's a reason doctors have years of training in teaching hospitals before practicing medicine on their own. Education is important, but not only means to find talented people.
                              The simple fact is that you don't have Trump's kind of success in business without knowing how to pick the right people for the job, and his transition team evaluated and interviewed dozens of candidates for Trump's cabinet.

                              That liberal morons like Jimmy and Dimbulb are having an aneurysm over some of his picks can only be a good thing.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Ah lets see, what makes an expert? Someone educated, someone with great knowledge and experience in their particular field of study.
                                Being educated, knowledgeable, and experienced isn't always found in the same person Jimmy. It's possible to be none, one, two or three of those things. It's possible to be knowledgeable and experienced without being educated.
                                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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