Trump's disastrous cabinet

[Cow Poke]

MM, would you please look in the mirror, what never ceases to amaze is the consistent and continuos irony of your posts.

Wow, talk about irony.

[Mountain Man]

MM, would you please look in the mirror, what never ceases to amaze is the consistent and continuos irony of your posts.

Don't laugh, Jimmy. You might be even more clueless than Dimbulb.

[NorrinRadd]

Ummmm.... does it mean something I don't know? We used to say that as kids.


ETA: I went ahead and edited it, cause it appears in the urban dictionary as something we never ever associated it with. Thanks, Rob!

Well now I'm all curious.

[JimL]

By that logic; Obama must not have been educated enough to be president. I know you're next trying to write off the clear end of your logic off, but Obama was only a US Senator for two years and held no other position before becoming president, so please explain how that made Obama more qualified than Trump after you've done explaining how a PhD makes one more qualified.

Except for the fact that along with his law practice, his community organizing, his 2 years in the Senate, he also attained a B.A. in political science at Columbia University, and a J.D Magna Cum Laude at Harvard University where he was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law review, and a constitutional scholar. Relatively speaking that makes Obama eminently more qualified than the born with a silver spoon in his mouth Trump.

[Starlight]

Except for the fact that along with his law practice, his community organizing, his 2 years in the Senate, he also attained a B.A. in political science at Columbia University, and a J.D Magna Cum Laude at Harvard University where he was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law review, and a constitutional scholar. Relatively speaking that makes Obama eminently more qualified than the born with a silver spoon in his mouth Trump.

I think the skills a president needs (aside from good media skills) are (1) a good general grasp of political policies and an understanding of their party's major policies across the board, (2) a decent general understanding of US political history and what being president is generally about, (3) a good understanding of the ins and outs of the behind-the-scenes of federal politics.

I don't think a president needs to be a constitutional scholar etc. The president is a generalist, and so is not a specific position calling for expert qualifications the way a particular cabinet appointment is. I think Obama had #1 and #2 above but was lite on #3 and I think the Dems really suffered for it because Obama didn't understand how to push his policy agenda through the federal government properly and had totally unrealistic expectations about how he could work with the Republicans. His two years in the Senate were definitely not long enough. If he'd done 6 years in Senate before going for the presidency I think it would have really, really, helped him. Whereas Trump has zero clue on #1, #2, and #3.

[Mountain Man]

Except for the fact that along with his law practice, his community organizing, his 2 years in the Senate, he also attained a B.A. in political science at Columbia University, and a J.D Magna Cum Laude at Harvard University where he was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law review, and a constitutional scholar. Relatively speaking that makes Obama eminently more qualified than the born with a silver spoon in his mouth Trump.

At least on paper. The reality appears to be substantially different. I think Obama will be remembered as one of the laziest, most incompetent, possibly most corrupt.presidents in US history. Trump could be our hardest working (he's twice my age and has double my energy; it's amazing), but it's way too early to say what else the next 4- to 8-years will bring. What I do know is that it won't take Trump long to completely dismantled Obama's pathetic "legacy". Can you believe that? 8-years as president, and none of it will have a lasting impact.

[Cow Poke]

...his community organizing....

That's always my favorite!

Audiences understand when he mentions his years as an Illinois state legislator, or his brief tenure in the U.S. Senate.

But a community organizer? What’s that? Even Obama didn’t know when he first gave it a try back in 1985. “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly,” Obama wrote in his memoir, Dreams from My Father. “Instead, I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the Congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...zer-byron-york

[Darth Executor]

(1) a good general grasp of political policies and an understanding of their party's major policies across the board

confirmed status quo shill

[Cow Poke]

I think the skills a president needs (aside from good media skills) are (1) a good general grasp of political policies and an understanding of their party's major policies across the board, (2) a decent general understanding of US political history and what being president is generally about, (3) a good understanding of the ins and outs of the behind-the-scenes of federal politics.

So, even if there weren't a citizenship requirement, you'd never be qualified to run for POTUS, eh?

[Mountain Man]

That's always my favorite!

Audiences understand when he mentions his years as an Illinois state legislator, or his brief tenure in the U.S. Senate.

But a community organizer? What’s that? Even Obama didn’t know when he first gave it a try back in 1985. “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly,” Obama wrote in his memoir, Dreams from My Father. “Instead, I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the Congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...zer-byron-york

Isn't it ironic that someone as manic and self-absorbed as Obama is complaining about people being manic and self-absorbed. You can also see the genesis of his feckless "lead from behind" ideology in that quote.

[lilpixieofterror]

Except for the fact that along with his law practice, his community organizing, his 2 years in the Senate, he also attained a B.A. in political science at Columbia University, and a J.D Magna Cum Laude at Harvard University where he was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law review, and a constitutional scholar. Relatively speaking that makes Obama eminently more qualified than the born with a silver spoon in his mouth Trump.

My dear Jimmy, I've organized plenty of community events, but that doesn't make me qualified to be president. Being in congress for a mere 2 years doesn't really do it either. I work for plenty of educated people and they are not always that impressive in the knowledge or intelligence categories either. I also hate to tell you that Obama didn't grow up poor and was quite wealthy in his upbringing. Face it Jimmy, Obama isn't impressive unless you're already star struck by any democrat you run across.

[Darth Ovious]

My dear Jimmy, I've organized plenty of community events, but that doesn't make me qualified to be president. Being in congress for a mere 2 years doesn't really do it either.

Yes, but then again the Democrats are falling apart because currently they don't have anybody else. Obama certainly had little experience but who else do they have? Their pick this time was Clinton who is basically a massive crook. Bernie Sander is pretty much Fidel Castro/Stalin in disguise and nobody likes Joe Biden. That's the real reason the Democrat leaders in the house kept their positions i.e. Elizabeth Warren. They currently don't have anybody new who will take the party in a sensible direction.

[Cow Poke]

Yes, but then again the Democrats are falling apart because currently they don't have anybody else. Obama certainly had little experience but who else do they have? Their pick this time was Clinton who is basically a massive crook. Bernie Sander is pretty much Fidel Castro/Stalin in disguise and nobody likes Joe Biden. That's the real reason the Democrat leaders in the house kept their positions i.e. Elizabeth Warren. They currently don't have anybody new who will take the party in a sensible direction.

I take issue with this --- everybody LOVES Joe! (Just not for anything important)

[lilpixieofterror]

Yes, but then again the Democrats are falling apart because currently they don't have anybody else. Obama certainly had little experience but who else do they have? Their pick this time was Clinton who is basically a massive crook. Bernie Sander is pretty much Fidel Castro/Stalin in disguise and nobody likes Joe Biden. That's the real reason the Democrat leaders in the house kept their positions i.e. Elizabeth Warren. They currently don't have anybody new who will take the party in a sensible direction.

I've heard many argue that Obama allowed the democrats to ignore the fact their party was getting out of touch and they had a lack of top political talent as their upper leadership ages. This election cycle shows how accurate that is.

[Mountain Man]

I've heard many argue that Obama allowed the democrats to ignore the fact their party was getting out of touch and they had a lack of top political talent as their upper leadership ages. This election cycle shows how accurate that is.

They ignored it because they didn't think it mattered. Their plans rested wholly on Hillary winning, and the Democrats, with the encouragement of their allies in the liberal media, were thoroughly convinced that she was going to coast through the election, at which point she would have flung open our borders, destroyed US sovereignty, and we would have been stuck with a Democrat/socialist/globalist controlled government for decades, possibly even centuries. In that scenario, quality future leaders were irrelevant because Democrats would have had a lock on the "ruling class". Thank God for Donald J. Trump!