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November 12th 2003, 10:26 AM #1
Public schools: The Epitome of Incompetance
http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20031...3140-7934r.htm
Why am I not surprised?
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November 12th 2003, 10:57 AM #2
All I can say is....
If I have a mystical experience, an experience that's so overwhelming that I know now that there's a God, the cognitive fallout from that is irrelevant. The fact that that experience can be explained by psychologists in numerous ways is irrelevant to the fact that I now know.
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November 12th 2003, 11:34 AM #3
Pretty funny stuff. But suppose I posted an article that started with the title "Catholics: The Epitome of Sexual Devience" and then related one story in which a single priest and parish engaged in sexual misconduct and the covering up of it?
You would say that the one instance does not indict the whole Catholic church right? Same here. The most you can say is "Sherwood HighSchool: The Epitome of Incompetance.""Yes, I'm quite concerned about health care issues surrounding leaked radiation from Japan. Now, please pass me my super sized, bacon double cheeseburger, combo meal..."
When I was young I admired clever people. Now that I'm older I admire kind people.~Rabbi Abraham Heschel
My most recent faith struggle is not one of intellect. I don't really do that anymore. Sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don't believe in God and they can prove He doesn't exist, and some other guys who can prove He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it's about who is smarter, and honestly, I don't care. ~ Don Miller Blue Like Jazz
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November 12th 2003, 11:50 AM #4Today @ 03:34 PM post located here
Pilgrim:
Pretty funny stuff. But suppose I posted an article that started with the title "Catholics: The Epitome of Sexual Devience" and then related one story in which a single priest and parish engaged in sexual misconduct and the covering up of it?
You would say that the one instance does not indict the whole Catholic church right? Same here. The most you can say is "Sherwood HighSchool: The Epitome of Incompetance."
I had the same thought.... that maybe the title was misleading the reader to thinking that this article was used as a platform to denounce incompetancy in the public school system in general.
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November 12th 2003, 01:54 PM #5
Before you get the impression that Virginai has terrible teachers througout, Colonial Heights High School, at least in the science department where Gail is head, this would not happen past the very first day of school.
I'm proud of the work she and her colleges do. The school was officially accreditied as providing instruction that passed easily the state's standards.The value and naturalness of homosexuality must be as scientifically clear as the fact that the earth is round. Then the acceptance of homosexuality will not crumble when the political pendulum next swings - Joan Roughgarden
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November 12th 2003, 11:11 PM #6It just serves up as reinforcement of what I've seen from being in a public high school right now.Today @ 07:34 AM post located here
Pilgrim:
Pretty funny stuff. But suppose I posted an article that started with the title "Catholics: The Epitome of Sexual Devience" and then related one story in which a single priest and parish engaged in sexual misconduct and the covering up of it?
You would say that the one instance does not indict the whole Catholic church right? Same here. The most you can say is "Sherwood HighSchool: The Epitome of Incompetance."Last edited by spl_cadet; November 12th 2003 at 11:13 PM.
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November 12th 2003, 11:13 PM #7Hmm, how would you feel if I used that same reasoning in posting an anti catholic thread?Today @ 10:11 PM post located here
spl_cadet:
It just serves up as reinforcement of what I've seen from being in a public high school right now."Yes, I'm quite concerned about health care issues surrounding leaked radiation from Japan. Now, please pass me my super sized, bacon double cheeseburger, combo meal..."
When I was young I admired clever people. Now that I'm older I admire kind people.~Rabbi Abraham Heschel
My most recent faith struggle is not one of intellect. I don't really do that anymore. Sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don't believe in God and they can prove He doesn't exist, and some other guys who can prove He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it's about who is smarter, and honestly, I don't care. ~ Don Miller Blue Like Jazz
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November 12th 2003, 11:43 PM #8This sounds more like either an honest to goodness glitch in the system or a case of that particular school beefing up how they are looking so they'll be sure to get their funding. I personally would be more concerned about that school registering dead voters, so to speak, than a truant officer, seeing that the girl is in fact enrolled in another school.esther
If your goal is purity of heart
be prepared to be thought very odd.
-- Elisabeth Elliot, Passion and Purity
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November 12th 2003, 11:52 PM #9Only if you happen to currently be in the Catholic Church would it be applicable.Today @ 07:13 PM post located here
Pilgrim:
Hmm, how would you feel if I used that same reasoning in posting an anti catholic thread?
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November 13th 2003, 12:29 AM #10
Well I go to catholic churches and am a close friend of the local priest, would that count? All I'm saying is that you are painting something with a broad brush stroke and using anecdotal evidence to try and prove some universal point. That won't work.
Pilgrim"Yes, I'm quite concerned about health care issues surrounding leaked radiation from Japan. Now, please pass me my super sized, bacon double cheeseburger, combo meal..."
When I was young I admired clever people. Now that I'm older I admire kind people.~Rabbi Abraham Heschel
My most recent faith struggle is not one of intellect. I don't really do that anymore. Sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don't believe in God and they can prove He doesn't exist, and some other guys who can prove He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it's about who is smarter, and honestly, I don't care. ~ Don Miller Blue Like Jazz
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November 13th 2003, 08:42 AM #11Is it your opinion that the public school sytem in the Us is in general incompetent?Today @ 03:11 AM post located here
spl_cadet:
It just serves up as reinforcement of what I've seen from being in a public high school right now.
I agree with Esther that we may be dealing with a glitch which does not necessarly reflect a general failure.
But again I have had a rather positive experience so far with my children's schooling which included attending schools in Ga., Department of Defense Dependents School System (Europe) and now Fla.
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November 13th 2003, 03:24 PM #12So if someone who were actively attending a Catholic church were to present evidence of sexual misconduct on the part of their priest, you would consider that a valid indictment of the entire Catholic church, right? Remember, you can't have it both ways. Either one example effectively indicts the entire body, or the body must be held relatively blameless for the exceptional example, and it must necessarily work across all catagories, including education and religion. Now, which would you prefer?Yesterday @ 09:52 PM post located here
spl_cadet:
Only if you happen to currently be in the Catholic Church would it be applicable.
And I agree with Rahab and Esther. This looks more than anything like a glitch in the automated record-keeping system. These kinds of glitches can happen, especially if the schools are both in the same district and have their computers networked with each other.The Best of the Best: Rush, Queen, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Savatage, TSO, Nightwish, Stratovarius, Freedom Call, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Dimmu Borgir, Blind Guardian, Edguy, Avantasia, Symphony X, Dream Theater ... to be continued ...
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November 13th 2003, 04:01 PM #13I am baptized, confirmed, and had Eucharist within the last year. Can I tear into them?Yesterday @ 10:52 PM post located here
spl_cadet:
Only if you happen to currently be in the Catholic Church would it be applicable.Meh.
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November 13th 2003, 09:41 PM #14
Pilgrim is right. To say that this incident establishes that public schools are incompetent is a fallacy based on anecdotal evidence. Perhaps it proves that the disctrict had a filing problem and that two teachers are incompetent, but the part does not establish the whole.
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