Leftists Riot Because Of "Speech" - Again

[MaxVel]

Free speech does not guarantee an audience. These events are about audience dynamics; they do not prevent free speech - that his opinions are well known demonstrates his freedom of expression.

He had an audience, who invited him to speak at their university. They were violently prevented from hearing him speak. That looks like violent suppression of free speech in a public space to me, and it's something that everyone should oppose. The end of this road that the leftist agitators are staring on is violence against anyone who you disagree with. It's the end of a multicultural, civil and democratic society.

That you and many others won't just come out and say that it's wrong to do this, no matter who is speaking and what their views, makes you culpable in whatever follows.

[MaxVel]

So Trump is willing to penalise UC Berkeley for not giving a platform to

Specific sources for the bolded claims, please. Direct quotes of Milo. Where does he advocate any of these things?

[Starlight]

Specific sources for the bolded claims, please. Direct quotes of Milo. Where does he advocate any of these things?

Learn to use google dude. You're always doing these sort of fake concern-trolling posts where you ask for specific citations of "where did I / you say X" when you could just google it.

[MaxVel]

Learn to use google dude. You're always doing these sort of fake concern-trolling posts where you ask for specific citations of "where did I / you say X" when you could just google it.

Guess you never graduated from a real university, then. You make the claim, you provide the citations. That's a fundamental of mature and honest discussion. No surprise that you don't get it, though. You're prone to name-calling, but don't back it up with evidence. That's dishonest and shows your lack of integrity.

In this case, I suspect firstfloor has simply regurgitated a second-hand leftist 'interpretation' of Milo, rather than actually having anything from Milo himself. So I'd like to see what Milo said that firstfloor thinks is "misogynist", because I suspect that it's something like Milo saying that he strongly disagrees with third-wave feminism - opposition to a political position espoused by some women, rather than Milo saying he 'hates women' - you know, actual misogyny.

If Milo actually hates women, I'd like to know, as that will (negatively) influence my opinion of him. Ditto is he's actually

See, that's honest and real discussion - I want to know the truth, the actual facts, from Milo's own words and actions, and I'm not settling from someone's second-hand and possibly biased opinion. As an atheist and someone who quite obviously wants to have your own reason-based opinions on things, you should be applauding my question to firstfloor, not condemning it.

[stfoskey15]

While I definitely support free speech and am disappointed in the use of violence to prevent Yiannopoulos from speaking at Berkeley, the fires shouldn't be surprising because he's said some pretty inflammatory stuff.

[Zymologist]

Learn to use google dude. You're always doing these sort of fake concern-trolling posts where you ask for specific citations of "where did I / you say X" when you could just google it.

Can I use this line next time an atheist asks for evidence of God's existence?

[JimL]

Bunch of pampered brats...

And Yiannopolous got exactly what he and his employer Breitbart wanted. Witnesses have it that the violence itself was incited by 150 or so masked non-students, probably employed by Breitbart as well.




http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...C-10901829.php[/QUOTE]

[JimL]

The President threatens to pull Berkeley's federal funding for opposing free speech.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ut-milo-event/

So much for Trumps tweets. He may wish to be a tyrant some day, but he isn't one yet, and he doesn't have the power to deny Berkley funding. Also, Berkley invited Yianopolous to speak, so how is that denying free speech?

[seer]

And Yiannopolous got exactly what he and his employer Breitbart wanted. Witnesses have it that the violence itself was incited by 150 or so masked non-students, probably employed by Breitbart as well.

Oh stop it Jim! And if they were masked how do you know they were not students? It is all about shutting down speech you don't agree with:

[rogue06]

And Yiannopolous got exactly what he and his employer Breitbart wanted. Witnesses have it that the violence itself was incited by 150 or so masked non-students, probably employed by Breitbart as well.




http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...C-10901829.php

If they were masked how do they know they were non-students?

[JimL]

Oh stop it Jim! And if they were masked how do you know they were not students?

How do you know they were? You don't!

[Darth Executor]

lol JimL has reached Alex Jones levels of paranoid conspiracy theories

[Darth Executor]

Learn to use google dude. You're always doing these sort of fake concern-trolling posts where you ask for specific citations of "where did I / you say X" when you could just google it.

The bolded statements are well known lies about milo. That's why he asked for sources, because he knew one of you would predictably faceplant on command, and you did.

[Darth Executor]

I don't view that as being relevant.

It's relevant because tweb doesn't take your money then tell you you're not entitled to the same rights and privileges as everybody else. And in the US this is a serious issue because universities are bound by constitutional restraints in the same way the rest of the government is. It's illegal for them to suppress free speech. I hope Trump goes to town on them and starts bringing professors and administrators in on civil rights violation charges, this nonsense has gone on long enough.

[Roy]

Can I use this line next time an atheist asks for evidence of God's existence?

Feel free. It won't help you though.