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Ah, yeah it is. As you affirm later on in your post.
Yes, and...? This shows that the leftists don't use violence against political opponents exactly how? Presumably they supported those rallies, since they were against Trump. If anything, it is evidence that the source of the violence is leftists attacking people who have other political values.
Originally posted by TassmanThe Berkeley protest was to resist the hateful ideology of the Alt-Right as represented by Yiannopoulos and Steve Bannon the latter occupying a powerful position in the White House. The university blamed "150 masked agitators" for the unrest, saying they had come to campus to disturb an otherwise peaceful protest.
1. Steve Bannon is a complete red herring. He was not present at Berkley, is not involved in Milo's 'Dangerous Faggot' tour.
2. Whoever the agitators where, they engaged in violence and destruction of public and private property to stop university students and guests from hearing an invited speaker.
3. You above admit that there is politically motivated violence in the USA.
4. Are you attempting to imply that it's somehow Trump's fault that leftists agitators violently demonstrated?
Originally posted by TassmanThe bottom line is that if the current administration continues its attempts to remove the existing rights of US citizens then the people will resist...hopefully peacefully.
Milo is not a part of the Administration, so protests directed against hi simply show that there are people out there that can't cope with being called out publicly on their politics. The immigration issue is not anything that removes the rights of US Citizens.
Bottom line: too many on the left are willing to violently overthrow the system if they don't get their way....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostMeh Gerbil: "I'm not so sure about same sex marriage; after all, it redefining a term that has been in use for a thousand years."
Liberal: "You are a hater. I need a safe space to get away from your hatred. You are a bad person."
Refugee: "Hi, do you know where the faggots hang out so I can gun them down?"
Liberal: "Take your visa, here is a check, and Welcome To America!"
Liberal: "There are cultures that have had polygamous marriages, and cultures that have had a wide variety of third-gender and same sex marriages. This is why the American Anthropological society issued their statement that cultures throughout history have successfully had all sorts of types of marriage and that anthropology provides no reason whatsoever to be against same-sex marriage. The English word "marriage" is only a few centuries old, and words change in meaning all the time. In our own culture we've seen the notion of "marriage" change in the 20th century as we introduced the possibilities of interracial marriage and of divorce."
Mad Gerbil: "I'm not listening! I don't want to hear your 'information' or 'facts'! I want to hate gays! They're bad. Same sex marriage is bad! Waaaah!"
Refugee: "Hi, my husband was killed in the civil war that has engulfed our country, my 4 year old girl and I have fled the country carrying what we could on our backs. Can we have food and shelter in your country? I can work for a living."
Liberal: "We're prepared to help you settle in and work here, but first we're going to run a whole host of background checks on you that are going to take 1-2 years, sorry about that.""I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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No they didn't. Where I live (NOT a Muslim country) there were people wearing 'Osama Bin Laden' T-shirts, complete with a screen-print of the burning Twin towers. No loca called them out, or even said that it was wrong. There was more of a sense that America had got what it deserved.
No they're not. Trump got elected on a platform of addressing immigration in America. There are plenty of political anti-immigration movements across Europe that are getting increasing support.
"We" here being 'western liberals' like you who ignore the historical reality of what happens when Muslims become more than a small minority in a country. You will only know what the 'right side' of history is once it's done and dusted and you and I are both long gone. We don't really have much of a historical track record of this kind of thing working successfully long-term, so I'm kind of cynical about the prospects of it working this time.
Source?
Appeasement really does work when dealing with Islam, huh?...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNice imagination. How it actually goes:
Liberal: "There are cultures that have had polygamous marriages, and cultures that have had a wide variety of third-gender and same sex marriages. This is why the American Anthropological society issued their statement that cultures throughout history have successfully had all sorts of types of marriage and that anthropology provides no reason whatsoever to be against same-sex marriage. The English word "marriage" is only a few centuries old, and words change in meaning all the time. In our own culture we've seen the notion of "marriage" change in the 20th century as we introduced the possibilities of interracial marriage and of divorce."
Mad Gerbil: "I'm not listening! I don't want to hear your 'information' or 'facts'! I want to hate gays! They're bad. Same sex marriage is bad! Waaaah!"...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostAh, yeah it is. As you affirm later on in your post.
Yes, and...? This shows that the leftists don't use violence against political opponents exactly how? Presumably they supported those rallies, since they were against Trump. If anything, it is evidence that the source of the violence is leftists attacking people who have other political values.1. Steve Bannon is a complete red herring. He was not present at Berkley, is not involved in Milo's 'Dangerous Faggot' tour.
2. Whoever the agitators where, they engaged in violence and destruction of public and private property to stop university students and guests from hearing an invited speaker.
3. You above admit that there is politically motivated violence in the USA.
4. Are you attempting to imply that it's somehow Trump's fault that leftists agitators violently demonstrated?
Bottom line: too many on the left are willing to violently overthrow the system if they don't get their way.Last edited by Tassman; 02-09-2017, 04:30 AM.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNice imagination. How it actually goes:
Liberal: "There are cultures that have had polygamous marriages, and cultures that have had a wide variety of third-gender and same sex marriages. This is why the American Anthropological society issued their statement that cultures throughout history have successfully had all sorts of types of marriage and that anthropology provides no reason whatsoever to be against same-sex marriage. The English word "marriage" is only a few centuries old, and words change in meaning all the time. In our own culture we've seen the notion of "marriage" change in the 20th century as we introduced the possibilities of interracial marriage and of divorce."
Mad Gerbil: "I'm not listening! I don't want to hear your 'information' or 'facts'! I want to hate gays! They're bad. Same sex marriage is bad! Waaaah!"
Refugee: "Hi, my husband was killed in the civil war that has engulfed our country, my 4 year old girl and I have fled the country carrying what we could on our backs. Can we have food and shelter in your country? I can work for a living."
Liberal: "We're prepared to help you settle in and work here, but first we're going to run a whole host of background checks on you that are going to take 1-2 years, sorry about that."
It isn't like they'll be shooting up a club where I hang out.
As long as you're bearing the price I'm willing to let anyone in by the boatful.
Let us know when you've had enough.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNice imagination. How it actually goes:
Liberal: "There are cultures that have had polygamous marriages, and cultures that have had a wide variety of third-gender and same sex marriages. This is why the American Anthropological society issued their statement that cultures throughout history have successfully had all sorts of types of marriage and that anthropology provides no reason whatsoever to be against same-sex marriage. The English word "marriage" is only a few centuries old, and words change in meaning all the time. In our own culture we've seen the notion of "marriage" change in the 20th century as we introduced the possibilities of interracial marriage and of divorce."
Mad Gerbil: "I'm not listening! I don't want to hear your 'information' or 'facts'! I want to hate gays! They're bad. Same sex marriage is bad! Waaaah!"
Refugee: "Hi, my husband was killed in the civil war that has engulfed our country, my 4 year old girl and I have fled the country carrying what we could on our backs. Can we have food and shelter in your country? I can work for a living."
Liberal: "We're prepared to help you settle in and work here, but first we're going to run a whole host of background checks on you that are going to take 1-2 years, sorry about that."
So you spit on Christians and call them over-reacting homophobes and islamaphobes, and turn around and welcome a muslim who hates what you are so badly they would kill you.
Totally insane. Liberals. derp.
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostOkay.
It isn't like they'll be shooting up a club where I hang out.
As long as you're bearing the price I'm willing to let anyone in by the boatful.
Let us know when you've had enough.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwow, you just don't realize that everything bad you think about Christian values, you can triple for Muslim Values. And you want to give them a hug and welcome them into your home. They would kill you for being gay, Starlight. They would not make you a wedding cake or let you go to their church. They would not even let you have a job. They would throw you in prison and kill you. Just for being gay.
So you spit on Christians and call them over-reacting homophobes and islamaphobes, and turn around and welcome a muslim who hates what you are so badly they would kill you.
Totally insane. Liberals. derp.
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Originally posted by Darth Ovious View PostRemind me again? Are Muslims for or against abortion in general? I wouldn't mind some support in getting rid of that barbarious law.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Darth Ovious View PostRemind me again? Are Muslims for or against abortion in general? I wouldn't mind some support in getting rid of that barbarious law.
Something I realized quite awhile ago is that radical Muslims are going to wipe out liberals long before they begin to bother me.
I'm not the one who is going to bear the brunt of poor immigration policy.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThey are, I believe, staunchly opposed. One of their strategies is to immigrate into an area and then out-breed the native population until they become the dominant culture. This is also why the men take multiple wives.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Let's check Muslim values against Liberal Values:
Women's Rights - Forced marriage, covered head to toe, can't drive or vote, obey their husbands, beating wives is good manners.
Abortion - Kill anyone who does it.
Homosexuality - Kill them all.
Gay Marriage - Impossible, they kill gays before they can even think about getting married.
Atheists - Kill them.
Other religions - Either make them pay a protection fee, or kill them.
Drinking - Outlawed.
Drugs - Kill them.
Equality - No. Just no.
Guns - Gotta have em, how else will they kill all the gays?
Riots in the street - Yeah buddy!
Freedom of Speech - Nope. Kill them all. Especially if they mention Mohammad or draw him.
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostWhile I don't think it is fair to judge all adherents of a religion by their worst actors statements like this make me wonder.
Do you remember 9/11?
Do you remember staring helplessly at the screen while thousands perished on live T.V.?
I do.
My aim here isn't to get overly dramatic but I have to wonder "How many people do they have to kill before some 'phobia' is reasonable, in your opinion?"
Marathon bombers, Pulse nightclub, these are just a few in recent memory - at what point do you think it is reasonable to be a little bit on edge?
I read where liberals on this forum get upset about Christian opposition to gay marriage - while at the same time defending the faith that motivated a young man to walk into a night club and gun down 50 homosexuals. We're importing people who throw gays off buildings but you're upset I use the word 'faggot'? I read where liberals are upset about women's rights - claiming Trump is going to end suffrage - while we important women and girls who've had their lady bits scraped off with clamshells - while women are forced to walk around in black sheets.
Given that I fail to see how I'm the dangerous one - how I'm the oppressor - how my views are a threat to freedom.
I don't expect you to explain any of that, in fact, please don't try.
I'm too bewildered by this whole issue.
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