As it turns out, Flynn lied when he said that in his call, prior to the innauguration, the Obama sanctions placed on Russia due to Russias interference in the elections were not discussed with his russian counterpart. Either he lied to the Administration and in particular to VP Pence about this, or Pence lied to the public about what Flynn told him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAs it turns out, Flynn lied when he said that in his call prior to the innauguration the Obama sanctions placed on Russia due to Russias interference in the elections with his russian counterpart. Either he lied to the Administration and in particular to VP Pence about this, or Pence lied to the public about what Flynn told him.That's what
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostI'm sorry... what? Your phrasing makes your sentence unintelligible...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Jim, if Gen. Flynn lied (an assertion which you have thus far entirely failed to corroborate), he should not have done so.
Your turn to denounce someone on your side for lying.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Flynn said the devastating words "Merry Christmas".
Again, it's so fun to watch the liberals pee and poop all over themselves.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostJim, if Gen. Flynn lied (an assertion which you have thus far entirely failed to corroborate), he should not have done so.
Your turn to denounce someone on your side for lying.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIts not just the fact that he lied, its the timing of his communication with russian officials, its who he lied to, and its what he lied about. 1) He was not even in office at the time he made the call, he had no right to be discussing U.S. policy with Russia as a private citizen. Its illegal. 2) Flynn, according to Preibus, Spicer and particularly according to VP Pence, lied to them all concerning the details of his conversations with the Russian Ambassador to the U.S. And 3) What he discussed with them was the sanctions that were just then put in place, along with the ousting of Russian ambassadors to the U.S. in retaliation for their meddling in the elections. When Obama put those sanctions on them, the Russians were all up in arms, saying they would not go unanswered, and then all of a sudden, after Flynns call, things changed. There was no retaliation, Putin even inviting the american ambassadors to Russia and their children to a christmas party. So, you not only have the would be head of national security illegally dealing with a foriegn entity, you have him lying to the administration about it, and in turn having the administration repeat that lie to the american people. If he isn't fired for that, then we should all assume that the administration was in on it as well.
Fail harder, Jim.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIts not just the fact that he lied, its the timing of his communication with russian officials, its who he lied to, and its what he lied about. 1) He was not even in office at the time he made the call, he had no right to be discussing U.S. policy with Russia as a private citizen. Its illegal. 2) Flynn, according to Preibus, Spicer and particularly according to VP Pence, lied to them all concerning the details of his conversations with the Russian Ambassador to the U.S. And 3) What he discussed with them was the sanctions that were just then put in place, along with the ousting of Russian ambassadors to the U.S. in retaliation for their meddling in the elections. When Obama put those sanctions on them, the Russians were all up in arms, saying they would not go unanswered, and then all of a sudden, after Flynns call, things changed. There was no retaliation, Putin even inviting the american ambassadors to Russia and their children to a christmas party. So, you not only have the would be head of national security illegally dealing with a foriegn entity, you have him lying to the administration about it, and in turn having the administration repeat that lie to the american people. If he isn't fired for that, then we should all assume that the administration was in on it as well.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThere's a lot of assertions here... and surprisingly little sources given for it.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIts not just the fact that he lied, its the timing of his communication with russian officials, its who he lied to, and its what he lied about.
..... oh, wait... you're not worried about Obama......The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYeah, heres some more assertions for you. Remember the secret dossier concerning Trumps associations with Russia compiled by the ex-British spy and released by Buzzfeed? You know, the fake news. Well it has now been corraborated according to CNN. Not all of it, but parts of it, and the parts that have not yet been corraborated are the salacious accussations concerning Trump and Russian prostitutes. They haven't given the details because it is classified information, but besides the salacious parts in the dossier, the only other accussations that I can recall were those concerning the Trump campaigns communications with Russia during the campaign in which Russia was found to be meddling in the election in order to help Trump win. So, putting two and two together it looks as though the Trump campaign was working in coordination with the Russians in their hacking and fake news operation. Is it any wonder why Trump is showing so much deference to Putin?Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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