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    What is a Hadith?

    David Wood constantly refers to Hadiths. What are Hadiths?
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    Commentary on the Quran and life of Mohammed by his contemporaries.

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    Muslims consider them sacred although Sunni and Shiites disagree over which ones are.

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    It translates to "Traditions" from what I remember, and they are collections of sayings about Mohammed, the Quran, and even some things about Mohammed's companions. The Hadith are some of the best sources to get historical information about early Islam.

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    Commentary of the Quran are Tafsir (exegesis)

    Ahadith are reports of the sayings, actions of the Prophet (pbuh) and there are different ways of compiling these collections. The classification and study of this material is a science (has a methodology).

    Authentication of the ahadith fall into 5 categories from strong to weak/false and is based on Isnad (chain of narration). This chain has its own methodology---such as the existence and reputation of the narrator/s, witnesses to the account, corroborating evidence or lack of...etc....

    The Quran is not ahadith---To Muslims, the author of the Quran is not the Prophet (pbuh).

    "Tradition"(Sunnah) includes the ahadith but also includes other sources such as biography, historical accounts of the period etc....

    Apart from the sayings of the Prophet, there are another set called the Hadith Qudsi (Qudsi = holy/sacred). These are highly spiritual.

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    Problems of hadith


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    Thanks for the information. I do have one more question, though. I know when I read the United States constitution that there is a list of rights and amendments. Is there a similar list of rules and amendments for Sharia Law? I've watched a lot of David Wood's videos and sometimes I don't comprehend what he's talking about.

    Now that I've watched many of David Wood's videos, I can finally see why Christians oppose the Qu'ran. Personally I would never read this book or follow any of it's commands. I can actually say that I knew next to nothing about Islam until I started watching his videos. I'm glad he's on YouTube explaining all this information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedlearner1 View Post
    Thanks for the information. I do have one more question, though. I know when I read the United States constitution that there is a list of rights and amendments. Is there a similar list of rules and amendments for Sharia Law? I've watched a lot of David Wood's videos and sometimes I don't comprehend what he's talking about.

    Now that I've watched many of David Wood's videos, I can finally see why Christians oppose the Qu'ran. Personally I would never read this book or follow any of it's commands. I can actually say that I knew next to nothing about Islam until I started watching his videos. I'm glad he's on YouTube explaining all this information.
    I do not watch David Wood.

    As a Muslim, I have read the Quran many times. I find much wisdom in it. My family tradition is to read it in the morning...so I often do so...The Quran is divided into 30 Juz (sections) so that Muslims can read it cover to cover during the month of fasting (Ramadan). So even those Muslims who do not read it every day---will have read it through at least once a year.

    The Quran is NOT Hadith (sayings of the Prophet)---I hope this point is clear. The Prophet himself separated "revelation" from the expressions of his own thoughts/opinions.

    Here is an example of an advice from the Quran---would you follow it or oppose it?

    Surah 107
    Do you see him who calls the reckoning a lie?
    He is the one who casts the orphan away
    who fails to urge the feeding of one in need
    Cursed are those who perform the prayer
    Unmindful of how they pray
    Who make of themselves a display
    but hold back small kindness.

    Though the Quran was revealed 1400 years ago, its wisdom is still relevant...this verse speaks of the human condition of ignoring those around us in our egoic pursuit of a religious identity. It therefore advices us that "worship of God" occurs in the everyday acts of kindness...and this is the condition we must cultivate in ourselves.

    The Quran is full of such wisdom---but not just the Quran---all sacred books have spiritual wisdom to impart to believers---that is why these books are so loved.

    The Quran is a small book of 114 "chapters" or Surah (by contrast the ahadith collections are vast and have many volumes)

    Sharia---Not sure how much you know---so I will start with the basics?......
    Christians have the 10 commandments...(?)
    Jews have the 613 mitzvot
    Muslims have something similar but it is vast and diverse and its called Sharia.
    Jews have the mizvot (ritual laws) and Halaka ("Law") likewise Sharia has both ritual rules (such as how to pray...etc) as well as Fiqh (Law).
    There are 5 major schools of Sharia and probably some minor ones. The differences in the schools arise from the different weight given to the "sources" of law.
    ---Your question of Rights falls under Fiqh, so let me explain it.....
    In the West there are different types of law systems such as Statutory law, Common law, Civil law....and they have their own methodology.
    Likewise Sharia/Fiqh also has its own sources and methodology as well as developments (it is after all 1400 yrs old!!!) Islam is a wholistic ethico-moral system and therefore the practice of "law" also requires ethico-moral principles.
    (IMO) some general principles are a) Equality of all human beings b) Innocent until proven guilty c) justice must be balanced by compassion and mercy and d) Rights are balanced by Responsibilities.
    Islamic ethico-morality is not binary---right/wrong but has 5 catagories/degrees from right (Halal) to wrong (Haram)

    The Rights/Responsibilities are put forth in the Maqasid al Sharia (Purpose/objectives of law)

    Protection of Deen (way of life/religion)
    Protection of Nafs (life)
    Protection of Nasl (lineage/progeny)
    Protection of Aql (intellect/knowledge)
    Protection of Mal (property/wealth)

    The Principles (ethico-moral wisdom) is unchanging---but its implementation is subject to change because of changes in the circumstances, environment, or interpretations. Scholars are free to debate issues within the different schools of Sharia as well as among them and give legal opinions (fatwa)

    I appreciate that you made the effort to ask...I hope you will continue to do so and look forward to further conversations.....

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    Actually Jews and Christians have the 10 commandments and I stand by all of them.

    The only difference between Jews and Christians is the belief that Jesus is the Messiah. I personally believe that Jesus is God and was resurrected. I can support this belief with John Chapter 5 verses 18-23. Jesus personally vouched for the accuracy of the Old Testament. So that's why I worship YHWH and Yeshua.

    Though I don't believe in the teachings of Muhommad, I see no reason why Christians shouldn't know what his teaching were. A Christian can know what athiests, buddists, or pagans are taught and yet not believe a word of their teachings. Obviously knowing and believing are two different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedlearner1 View Post
    David Wood constantly refers to Hadiths. What are Hadiths?
    As far as I know, Mohammed's twitter or blog, as opposed to his "prophecy" site.
    http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

    Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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