Kremlingate

[Starlight]

BBC has a summary here of some of the main parts of the Trump-Russia connection.

The sheer number of different things connecting Trump to the Kremlin seems incredible.

His campaign chair Paul Manafort was forced to resign due to his Russian links.
Now his national security adviser Michael Flynn has been forced to resign due to his Russian links.

Two more of Trump's advisers are looking super-dubious with regard to Russian links: Carter Page, and Rex Tillerson.

Meanwhile the 'compromising dossier' about Trump's own Russian links has grown more credible by the week, with various incidental facts in the dossier (who talked to whom and on what day) being corroborated, and the person who wrote the dossier being revealed to be a highly-trusted British MI6 agent who is an expert on Russia.

Trump and his son have both claimed at times in the past to have had extensive business dealings with Russia, and Trump continues to refuse to release his tax returns which would detail such business dealings and offers fake excuses instead. And the timeline of the DNC hacks and Trump's campaign doesn't look innocent either.

It took 2 years of extensive media investigation to get to the bottom of Watergate after it happened. It will be interesting to see just how far down the rabbit hole goes on this one, and just how many people in Trump's administration the scandal claims.

[arnoldo]

Rumour has it Trump is going to give Alaska back to Russia.

[Starlight]

CNN today: Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign

[Tassman]

BBC has a summary here of some of the main parts of the Trump-Russia connection.

The sheer number of different things connecting Trump to the Kremlin seems incredible.

His campaign chair Paul Manafort was forced to resign due to his Russian links.
Now his national security adviser Michael Flynn has been forced to resign due to his Russian links.

Two more of Trump's advisers are looking super-dubious with regard to Russian links: Carter Page, and Rex Tillerson.

Meanwhile the 'compromising dossier' about Trump's own Russian links has grown more credible by the week, with various incidental facts in the dossier (who talked to whom and on what day) being corroborated, and the person who wrote the dossier being revealed to be a highly-trusted British MI6 agent who is an expert on Russia.

Trump and his son have both claimed at times in the past to have had extensive business dealings with Russia, and Trump continues to refuse to release his tax returns which would detail such business dealings and offers fake excuses instead. And the timeline of the DNC hacks and Trump's campaign doesn't look innocent either.

It took 2 years of extensive media investigation to get to the bottom of Watergate after it happened. It will be interesting to see just how far down the rabbit hole goes on this one, and just how many people in Trump's administration the scandal claims.

There is the same sense of inevitability as there was with Watergate and it may well end up claiming Trump in much the same way Watergate brought about the demise of Nixon.

[EvoUK]

Not too sure why the big enemy is Trump to be honest. Even if the above are bogus (and I'm not quite willing to assume they are), it's Bannon and his influence I'm concerned about.

Also, let's say Trump got impeached. That leaves you with Pence. Given his voting history I doubt progressives want him in charge either, plus he'll have more of a backing from the republicans. Not sure if abandon will have the same hold over Pence or not, or if he'd quickly fall out of favour if Pence was elected in Trumps place.

[Starlight]

Not too sure why the big enemy is Trump to be honest. Even if the above are bogus (and I'm not quite willing to assume they are), it's Bannon and his influence I'm concerned about.

Also, let's say Trump got impeached. That leaves you with Pence. Given his voting history I doubt progressives want him in charge either, plus he'll have more of a backing from the republicans. Not sure if abandon will have the same hold over Pence or not, or if he'd quickly fall out of favour if Pence was elected in Trumps place.

Oh they're all atrocious. But it's fun to metaphorically eat popcorn while watching the Republicans all make utter fools of themselves. Trump said "We will have so much winning when I get elected that you will get bored with winning", and I'm enjoying watching his alt-winning. Plus I also laugh at the muppets who voted for him, and who try to defend his every insane and incompetent action.

[Meh Gerbil]

I didn't know diplomatic/business dealings with Russia was illegal or even undesirable.
I certainly don't view Russia as an enemy; or to be even more frank, a threat.

[Mountain Man]

They say if you repeat a lie often enough, some people begin to accept it as the truth.

[Starlight]

They say if you repeat a lie often enough, some people begin to accept it as the truth.

You'd know I guess since it apparently worked on you.

[JimL]

I didn't know diplomatic/business dealings with Russia was illegal or even undesirable.
I certainly don't view Russia as an enemy; or to be even more frank, a threat.

Business dealings with Russian Intelligence? As Star pointed out, multiple Trump campaign aides, as well as Trump associates were communicating with Russian Intelligence during the campaign, i.e. they were communicating with Russian Intelligence at the same time that Russian Intelligence was hacking and interfering with the U.S. election in the hopes of getting Trump elected.

[Mountain Man]

Source: Breitbart

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-intelligence/

© Copyright Original Source

The REAL story should be about who is leaking classified information to the press? Those people should be in jail.

[Darth Ovious]

Once again the dummicrats are trying to pin something on Trump that he didn't do that Obama already did in person in the past.

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[Sparko]

The lengths the MSM will go to in order to manufacture a fake crisis is astounding.

They just can't accept that the liberals lost the election. It is sad.

[Meh Gerbil]

Business dealings with Russian Intelligence? As Star pointed out, multiple Trump campaign aides, as well as Trump associates were communicating with Russian Intelligence during the campaign, i.e. they were communicating with Russian Intelligence at the same time that Russian Intelligence was hacking and interfering with the U.S. election in the hopes of getting Trump elected.

I know I'm supposed to have some sort of Paplovian response to the phrase Russian Intelligence but I'm not feeling it over here.
Russian intelligence could be a diplomat, a business dealing, or communications about potential terrorists threats to Trump's person.
It would be idiotic to assume that a presidential front runner and president elect wouldn't have communication with the world's super powers.

That said, if the law was violated a price needs to be paid.
Let me know when an actual law is broken.

Thanks.

[Sparko]

Business dealings with Russian Intelligence? As Star pointed out, multiple Trump campaign aides, as well as Trump associates were communicating with Russian Intelligence during the campaign, i.e. they were communicating with Russian Intelligence at the same time that Russian Intelligence was hacking and interfering with the U.S. election in the hopes of getting Trump elected.

Citations? Evidence?