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  • #31
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Any time I've tried to point out how corporatist and right-leaning Obama and Hillary were/are, the conservatives here lose it. In their minds both of them are hugely left wing, and the fact I see them as right wing shows I'm like infinitely far left in their minds.
    Considering the far right also hates corporations (and they have more reason to given that corporations are overwhelmingly left wing) Obama and Hillary being corporatist doesn't make them "right-leaning" in the slightest. It's only the idiots on the left (IE: the average tweb leftist) who sample their own merchandise that are actually anti-corporation. The rest just pretend while running or working for them.
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Roy View Post
      Not my fault you're too stupid and bigoted to read and understand non-trivial concepts.
      I can read and understand non-trivial concepts. Your "dat's rayciss" smear is as simple, dumb and overused as it gets. You couldn't be a bigger parody of an illiterate low IQ leftist if you tried.
      "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

      There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Any time I've tried to point out how corporatist and right-leaning Obama and Hillary were/are, the conservatives here lose it. In their minds both of them are hugely left wing, and the fact I see them as right wing shows I'm like infinitely far left in their minds.
        Yes! Unlike our respective highly enlightened countries, there seems to be no left wing in the US at all, merely very right wing (Dems) and extreme right wing (Republicans).

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
          Yes! Unlike our respective highly enlightened countries, there seems to be no left wing in the US at all, merely very right wing (Dems) and extreme right wing (Republicans).
          so you guys are the alt-left then?

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          • #35
            what I find disingenuous is that the liberals are whining about the fact that Trump is keeping his campaign promises. If he didn't, they would be whining about that. "see? we told you he wouldn't keep his promises!"

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
              Most commies and corporate shills are working together these days.
              Show evidence of that.
              Blog: Atheism and the City

              If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                Considering the far right also hates corporations (and they have more reason to given that corporations are overwhelmingly left wing) Obama and Hillary being corporatist doesn't make them "right-leaning" in the slightest. It's only the idiots on the left (IE: the average tweb leftist) who sample their own merchandise that are actually anti-corporation. The rest just pretend while running or working for them.
                It does, because the far right isn't the right; you're conflating two things. The far right today is the alt-right. Obama and Hillary side with the right on trade, and corporate power. So you calling them commies is absolutely ludicrous, and indicative of your inability to understand facts. It's just a standard right-wind talking point for the unthinking conservatards (like you).
                Blog: Atheism and the City

                If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by The Thinker View Post
                  It does, because the far right isn't the right; you're conflating two things. The far right today is the alt-right. Obama and Hillary side with the right on trade, and corporate power. So you calling them commies is absolutely ludicrous, and indicative of your inability to understand facts. It's just a standard right-wind talking point for the unthinking conservatards (like you).
                  You should read your own signature block

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    what I find disingenuous is that the liberals are whining about the fact that Trump is keeping his campaign promises. If he didn't, they would be whining about that. "see? we told you he wouldn't keep his promises!"
                    Eh? In general he's not keeping his campaign promises. He's certainly broken all his promises regarding the 1001 things he claimed he'd do on "day one". But he's only been in office for a month, so the vast majority of things he promised to do as president obviously haven't been done yet, and we can't yet evaluate whether he will/won't do them because he's only been president for a month and hasn't done them yet.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      what I find disingenuous is that the liberals are whining about the fact that Trump is keeping his campaign promises. If he didn't, they would be whining about that. "see? we told you he wouldn't keep his promises!"

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                      • #41
                        the revised travel ban exempts greencard holders and those with visas.

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