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Originally posted by Terraceth
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The banner of states rights in the South was based on their claim to the right to keep the slavery system.
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It persisted into the twentieth century as penal servitude in Southern States. Nonetheless the end of slavery was due to national Constitutional issues of basic human rights, as should be the rights protected of all minorities including transgender people.
The banner of states rights in the South was based on their claim to the right to keep the slavery system.Last edited by shunyadragon; 02-24-2017, 07:50 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
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How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you make idiotic statements like that?Originally posted by Starlight View Post
Not that anyone does take you seriously anymore. Mostly because of idiotic statements like that.
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In some fairness, given that some states rights advocates are highly critical of Lincoln and that the Confederate Stars and Bars are suddenly code for racism, I can see how he'd come to that conclusion - especially if he's getting his views from far left and/or satirical news shows here. It's not close to accurate, but I think he's dependent on what his sources are telling him and doesn't have the background information to know better.Originally posted by Sparko View PostEnter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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A common libertarian talking point seems to be that Lincoln was one of the worst presidents in US history (the top spot is usually reserved for FDR), based on his suspension of habeas corpus and stance on states rights."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard RavenhillComment
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one situation over 100 years ago and suddenly State's rights is all about Racism. And while racist, slavery wasn't about race, it was about business. They didn't say "we hate blacks and we want to keep them down!" - they just wanted to keep their cheap labor which happened to be black.Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
But The US has always been a balancing act. Allowing States to run themselves under the umbrella of the Federal Government. At times it swings too far in one direction or the other. Right now I think it is too far on the side of the Federal Government and needs to be more in the State's favor.
I bet if we were talking State's rights in regard to legalizing marijuana, Starlight wouldn't be trying to characterize it as "racist"
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Yeah, white people just happened to come across people with a different skin color and label them subhuman. That's why when slavery was abolished white people didn't treat black people poorly any longer.Originally posted by Sparko View PostComment
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I wouldn't say it's common among libertarians. While libertarians in general think Lincoln was really overrated (the whole habeas corpus thing was a big turnoff and there's debate on whether he should have let the southern states go), the kind of dislike of Lincoln you describe is in my experience more of a paleolibertarian or paleoconservative thing rather than something you'll find in the general libertarian population.Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostComment
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Of course, if all on team of Trump are of one mind there will be accusations of domineering, also lack of diversity, no room of disagreement.Originally posted by guacamole View Post
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