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      Quote Originally posted by NeilUnreal View Post
      I think I like lyrics because I like poetry.
      This song has been on my mind for a few days now. The Restorer (circa. 1978)
      I think this poetic composer is one of the leading peeps in ACUK.
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      One thing I've always liked about Like a Rolling Stone is how, though ostensibly a taunt, portions of it can be re-read as making an empowering statement about freedom from materiality and image:

      "When you ain't got nothing, you ain't got nothing to lose.
      You're invisible now, you've got no secrets to conceal."

      Apparently even Dylan was struck by this paradox. This artistic resolution of conflicting meanings in a single item is the hallmark of great literary art, IMHO.

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      Quote Originally posted by NeilUnreal View Post
      One thing I've always liked about Like a Rolling Stone is how, though ostensibly a taunt, portions of it can be re-read as making an empowering statement about freedom from materiality and image:

      "When you ain't got nothing, you ain't got nothing to lose.
      You're invisible now, you've got no secrets to conceal."

      Apparently even Dylan was struck by this paradox. This artistic resolution of conflicting meanings in a single item is the hallmark of great literary art, IMHO.

      -Neil
      That is deep! I have often sung this song, and even moulded the energy into the title track, on my first CD.

      'Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
      They’re drinkin’, thinkin’ that they got it made
      Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things
      But you’d better lift your diamond ring, you’d better pawn it babe
      You used to be so amused
      At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
      Go to him now, he calls you, you can’t refuse'


      I used to sing this part and never really get it...in retrospect is it a chapter out of history? or just words?

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      Neil,
      Two other songs come to my mind, when I think about 'Like A Rolling Stone" :

      Me & Bobby McGee by Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster (the Janis Joplin version) and the line, "Freedom's just another word, for nothing left too lose"

      Where do you go to my lovely by Peter Sarstedt, the whole song.

      Plus an old blues tune, but I cannot remember the line.

      Edit add: lol

      I was sitting here thinking and praying, and then it come back to me...."You can't lose what you ain't never had" (Muddly Waters)

      Sincerely,
      HH
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      Re: U2 ?

      Quote Originally posted by Pilgrim View Post
      The quote in the post is not the U2 song. It is Head's own prayer. Just FYI.
      Duh, I knew it wasn't the U2 song. But it looked like lyrics to A Song.
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      Quote Originally posted by TyRockwell View Post
      Duh, I knew it wasn't the U2 song. But it looked like lyrics to A Song.
      They are in fact words to a song adapted from a prayer that was attributed to an old saint, but the link was never succesfully established. ( according to Wiccapedia )

      Lord, make me an instrument of your peace;

      where there is hatred, let me sow love;


      where there is injury, pardon:


      where there is doubt, faith ;


      where there is despair, hope


      where there is darkness, light

      where there is sadness, joy

      O divine Master,
      grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;

      to be understood, as to understand;


      to be loved, as to love;


      for it is in giving that we receive,


      it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,


      and it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.


      Amen

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      The lyrics do sound like a Christian song; never crossed my mind before (not that I had read the lyrics before today; and I used to be quite a fan).
      I have climbed highest mountains
      I have run through the fields
      Only to be with you
      Only to be with you
      I have run
      I have crawled
      I have scaled these city walls
      These city walls
      Only to be with you

      But I still haven't found what I'm looking for
      But I still haven't found what I'm looking for

      I have kissed honey lips
      Felt the healing in her fingertips
      It burned like a fire
      This burning desire

      I have spoke with the tongue of angels
      I have held the hand of a devil
      It was warm in the night
      I was cold as a stone

      But I still haven't found what I'm looking for
      But I still haven't found what I'm looking for

      I believe in the Kingdom Come
      Then all the colors will bleed into one
      Bleed into one
      But yes I'm still running

      You broke the bonds
      And you loosed the chains
      Carried the cross
      Of my shame
      Oh my shame
      You know I believe it


      But I still haven't found what I'm looking for
      But I still haven't found what I'm looking for
      But I still haven't found what I'm looking for

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      The album this song comes from is one of my very favorites of all that I have. It's The Joshua Tree. Great album. (I just thought I ought to mention the album's name; just a a FYI for anyone who might not know, who is passing through.)

      Also top-notch U2 albums are these that preceded it:

      War

      The Unforgettable Fire

      Wide Awake In America (a live recording)

      ...and the part studio recordings and part live performances album that followed The Joshua Tree:

      Rattle And Hum


      A note: The song "40" on the album War is based on Psalm 40.




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      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
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      Quote Originally posted by The Pixie View Post
      The lyrics do sound like a Christian song; never crossed my mind before (not that I had read the lyrics before today; and I used to be quite a fan).
      I think U2, nailed substitutionary atonement big time with this modern psalm.

      Peace,
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      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      The Joshua Tree.
      Ain't that the gospel message in a nutshell. Hebrew-Aramaic יְהוֹשֻׁעַ (Yĕhōšuă‘, Joshua)

      Sincerely,
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      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      The album this song comes from is one of my very favorites of all that I have. It's The Joshua Tree. Great album. (I just thought I ought to mention the album's name; just a a FYI for anyone who might not know, who is passing through.)

      Also top-notch U2 albums are these that preceded it:
      Agreed. It was after Joshua Tree that they started to disappear up their own backsides, though the more recent stuff has been something of a return to form.

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      Quote Originally posted by The Pixie View Post
      Agreed. It was after Joshua Tree that they started to disappear up their own backsides, though the more recent stuff has been something of a return to form.
      Mmm...one of the few bands who thrived in the early 80's and nearly disbanded in the early 90's, .....they certainly are survivors!

      When Bono was discussing the meaning of "Even Better Than The Real Thing", which apparently triggered a fresh breath of inspiration which sparked the classic "One"...I got an eye into the pressure, these guys were feeling...

      "It was reflective of the times [the band] were living in, when people were no longer looking for the truth, [they] were all looking for instant gratification"
      From: Wikipedia
      Though I am not an avid fan of this band ( I am still listening to Common One by Van Morrison) , "One" certainly was more than a brush. It thundered through the consciousness of fans.

      Have you come here for forgiveness?
      Have you come to raise the dead?
      Have you come here to play Jesus?
      To the lepers in your head

      Oneness,
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      FYI, It is interesting to know that the Joshua tree is a kind of cactus that only blooms every forty years.
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      Quote Originally posted by TyRockwell View Post
      FYI, It is interesting to know that the Joshua tree is a kind of cactus that only blooms every forty years.
      A most interesting tree.
      They can live up to as long as a 1000 years, and are pollinated by the Yucca Moth.
      It is rumoured that the Mormon's first called them the Joshua trees.

      We have a copy of the CD that we have not yet opened. I guess we will wait until we are reunited with our son... "Joshua"

      Yuck.

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