Not true Christians?

[Tassman]

I don't know, is this how Christ or the New Testament writers taught us to act?

Presumably they think so. People generally don’t commit themselves to things they believe to be wrong. Sadly the deluded religious belief that some brands of religion are “right” and all the others are “wrong” has been the cause of many problems in society...even wars.

[KingsGambit]

Presumably they think so. People generally don’t commit themselves to things they believe to be wrong. Sadly the deluded religious belief that some brands of religion are “right” and all the others are “wrong” has been the cause of many problems in society...even wars.

Then this works as a point for Christianity because the vast majority of Christians have taken something entirely different away from their faith.

[Christianbookworm]

For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

Some humans are evil jerks. Therefore the entire species is evil and deserves to die!

By the logic of certain fundy atheists, I could claim that atheism is evil just because Stalin was an atheist.

[mossrose]

I dunno, Darth, Revelation seems to say quite a bit about global warming.

God-caused, not human.

[Tassman]

For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

Some humans are evil jerks. Therefore the entire species is evil and deserves to die!

By the logic of certain fundy atheists, I could claim that atheism is evil just because Stalin was an atheist.

You’re utilising a most absurd form of the tu quoque (“you too”) fallacy. ALL religion, including Christianity, has a long inglorious history of atrocities in the name of the one true god just as bad as Stalin et al and over a much longer period...millennia rather than decades.

In fact those societies today that are the most religious...where faith in God is strong and religious participation is high...tend to have the highest violent crime rates, while those societies in which faith and church attendance are the weakest...the most secular societies...tend to have the lowest. - Phil Zuckerman, professor of secular studies at Pitzer College

[Tassman]

God-caused, not human.

Well science is obviously better equipped than god at detecting the fact of global warming.

"Over the past 50 years, the average global temperature has increased at the fastest rate in recorded history. And experts see the trend is accelerating: All but one of the 16 hottest years in NASA’s 134-year record have occurred since 2000".

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/global-warming-101

Those that deny this, like Trump, and refuse to support the modification of carbon dioxide output and other air pollutants and greenhouse gasses, are condemning our children and grandchildren to a grossly degraded environment and lifestyle.

[MaxVel]

You’re utilising a most absurd form of the tu quoque (“you too”) fallacy. ALL religion, including Christianity, has a long inglorious history of atrocities in the name of the one true god just as bad as Stalin et al and over a much longer period...millennia rather than decades.

In fact those societies today that are the most religious...where faith in God is strong and religious participation is high...tend to have the highest violent crime rates, while those societies in which faith and church attendance are the weakest...the most secular societies...tend to have the lowest. - Phil Zuckerman, professor of secular studies at Pitzer College

You really ARE this dumb, huh? It's not just an act to be annoying. I thought my opinion of your intellectual integrity couldn't go any lower... ..guess I was wrong.

[Meh Gerbil]

You really ARE this dumb, huh? It's not just an act to be annoying. I thought my opinion of your intellectual integrity couldn't go any lower... ..guess I was wrong.

You cannot visit an Amish community without tripping over a murder victim.

[Sparko]

Their web page:

http://wordoffaithfellowship.org/home/

They sound normal. But IF the news stories are true, they are not.

[37818]

Right. Only God knows their hearts.

Yes. Yet, based on the heart we are all toast (Jeremiah 17:9; Proverbs 15:11; Romans 3:10).

[seer]

Yes. Yet, based on the heart we are all toast (Jeremiah 17:9; Proverbs 15:11; Romans 3:10).

Thank goodness for grace...

[Christianbookworm]

Yes. Yet, based on the heart we are all toast (Jeremiah 17:9; Proverbs 15:11; Romans 3:10).

That's why we need Jesus! Anyways, what's with the idiot who thinks that you can falsify Christianity based on the evil behavior of a few who claim to be Christians? Christianity stands or falls on the truth of the Resurrection, not our behavior. Besides, one of the points of Christianity is that we are a bunch of evil jerks compared to Jesus, so it's silly to complain that we don't act like Jesus 24/7. Actually, if Jesus were somehow here on Earth in the present, people might find something to complain about Him. Somehow.

[37818]

Their web page:

http://wordoffaithfellowship.org/home/

They sound normal. But IF the news stories are true, they are not.

Grace plus works gospel?

http://wordoffaithfellowship.org/our-church/beliefs/

[Christianbookworm]

Grace plus works gospel?

http://wordoffaithfellowship.org/our-church/beliefs/

they also seemed obsessed with demons and not celebrating holidays. Holidays are not pagan.... And some other sections seem legalistic. And of course they deny that any abuse ever happened. Don't know if I even believe them considering that they do seem to think Christians can be affected by demons.

[mossrose]

Well science is obviously better equipped than god at detecting the fact of global warming.

"Over the past 50 years, the average global temperature has increased at the fastest rate in recorded history. And experts see the trend is accelerating: All but one of the 16 hottest years in NASA’s 134-year record have occurred since 2000".

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/global-warming-101

Those that deny this, like Trump, and refuse to support the modification of carbon dioxide output and other air pollutants and greenhouse gasses, are condemning our children and grandchildren to a grossly degraded environment and lifestyle.

You don't even know what I am talking about, you are so blind.