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      The divinely inspired Constitution

      LDS scripture teaches that the original U.S. Constitution was divinely inspired by God.

      D&C 101:77-80


      77 According to the laws and constitution of the people, which I have suffered to be established, and should be maintained for the brights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles;
      78 That every man may act in doctrine and principle pertaining to futurity, according to the moral agency which I have given unto him, that every man may be accountable for his own sins in the day of judgment.
      79 Therefore, it is not right that any man should be in bondage one to another.
      80 And for this purpose have I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood.

      © source where applicable



      What do other Christian churches teach about our Constitution?

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      It is a grand and wonderful document. It is a masterpiece of literature. It is not the Word of God however. That only belongs to Scripture.
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      Re: The divinely inspired Constitution

      Which explains why it needed amendments...

      And that whole three-fifths thing? If that's not divinely inspired, I don't know what is.
      Disregard the above.

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      Re: The divinely inspired Constitution

      Let's just hope "the Messiah" doesn't do any textual criticism of the Constitution.
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      Re: The divinely inspired Constitution

      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      LDS scripture teaches that the original U.S. Constitution was divinely inspired by God.
      Yet another reason to reject the proposition that LDS scripture is an accurate depiction of Deity.
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      Re: The divinely inspired Constitution

      Wow that has to be the biggest surprise I've yet encountered regarding the LDS. Hm.
      To the King of Kings and Lord of Lords be glory forever!

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      Quote Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
      Wow that has to be the biggest surprise I've yet encountered regarding the LDS. Hm.
      I'm guessing you haven't seen much.
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      Re: The divinely inspired Constitution

      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      ..........

      What do other Christian churches teach about our Constitution?
      Not a one teaches that the U.S. Constitution was inspired of God as if like His word. Your religion is unique in this, AFAIK.


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      Quote Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
      Which explains why it needed amendments...

      And that whole three-fifths thing? If that's not divinely inspired, I don't know what is.
      You have no idea what the 3/5 thing was about, do you.

      So do you think the Constitution is worthy of attack and ridicule?

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      Quote Originally posted by ApologiaPhoenix View Post
      It is a grand and wonderful document. It is a masterpiece of literature. It is not the Word of God however. That only belongs to Scripture.
      I never said it was the "word of God" in the sense that scripture is. Scripture always comes through ordained prophets. The Constitution did not. I'm referring to the underlying principles of the Constitution, that we believe are divinely inspired.

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      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      You have no idea what the 3/5 thing was about, do you.

      So do you think the Constitution is worthy of attack and ridicule?
      You mean, for the purposes of Congressional representation, counting enslaved persons as three-fifths of a person?

      Naturally, the North didn't want slaves counted at all, and the South wanted them counted as 1 person (because of the effect it would have on representation). It really has nothing to do with whether or not blacks were considered to be whole persons.

      While I consider the Constitution and the government it establishes to be unique and praiseworthy, I see no reason to think of America or its government as any more significant in God's plan than any other nation in the world. The Constitution is not worthy of ridicule, but those who consider it inspired any more by God than by Enlightenment philosophers like Locke or Rousseau most certainly are.
      Disregard the above.

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      Quote Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
      You mean, for the purposes of Congressional representation, counting enslaved persons as three-fifths of a person?

      Naturally, the North didn't want slaves counted at all, and the South wanted them counted as 1 person (because of the effect it would have on representation). It really has nothing to do with whether or not blacks were considered to be whole persons.
      Good. This was part of a comprise that was necessary in order to declare independence and form a constitution in the first place.

      Quote Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
      While I consider the Constitution and the government it establishes to be unique and praiseworthy, I see no reason to think of America or its government as any more significant in God's plan than any other nation in the world. The Constitution is not worthy of ridicule, but those who consider it inspired any more by God than by Enlightenment philosophers like Locke or Rousseau most certainly are.
      Thanks for your input.

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      Re: The divinely inspired Constitution

      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      LDS scripture teaches that the original U.S. Constitution was divinely inspired by God.

      D&C 101:77-80


      77 According to the laws and constitution of the people, which I have suffered to be established, and should be maintained for the brights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles;
      78 That every man may act in doctrine and principle pertaining to futurity, according to the moral agency which I have given unto him, that every man may be accountable for his own sins in the day of judgment.
      79 Therefore, it is not right that any man should be in bondage one to another.
      80 And for this purpose have I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood.

      © source where applicable



      What do other Christian churches teach about our Constitution?
      you mean the apostates wrote an inspired document for God? wow.

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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      you mean the apostates wrote an inspired document for God? wow.
      Nothing to contribute, Sparko?

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      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      Nothing to contribute, Sparko?
      It sounds like a good point to me.
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