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    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

    MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
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    Well, who could argue with such a well thought out and thoroughly documented case that you presented.

    Still, I agree that he does come off at times as rather boorish but then again he hasn't spent decades carefully crafting himself into saying what he thinks others want to hear. This lack of political correctness and unwillingness to kowtow to it is what attracted many people to him. As for myself, he wasn't Hillary.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Roy View Post
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      Yes certainly can't argue against the points you've made.

      But this election seemed to favor a president selected not for his seeming refinement but rather for the possibility that he would act for the benefit of the nation -- instead of just looking pretty.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Roy View Post
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        This is where I should go all pedantic on you. :-)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          This is where I should go all pedantic on you. :-)
          I'm a Brit - giving the enumeration is normal here.
          Last edited by Roy; 03-03-2017, 04:00 PM.
          Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

          MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
          MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

          seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Well, who could argue with such a well thought out and thoroughly documented case that you presented.
            He had me at "("

            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
              Yes certainly can't argue against the points you've made.

              But this election seemed to favor a president selected not for his seeming refinement but rather for the possibility that he would act for the benefit of the nation -- instead of just looking pretty.
              Obama was, indeed, a very nice looking man. And he could make good speeches.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                But this election seemed to favor a president selected not for his seeming refinement but rather for the possibility that he would act for the benefit of the nation -- instead of just looking pretty.
                ^So are we going to get Canuck-Trump after Trudeau?????
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Obama was, indeed, a very nice looking man. And he could make good speeches.
                  At least as long as he has a teleprompter


                  From 25 second mark




                  What is funny is that just the other night Zack Buchanan, a senior advisor for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) who helped run their Trump war room mocked Trump's speech from this week (one that received praise from both sides of the aisle) as having "met the bar a trained monkey would have to meet for it to be a good speech. He read from a teleprompter and didn't cause a scandal"

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    At least as long as he has a teleprompter
                    Well, yeah, there's that... so he was a good speech READER.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      On stage and TV there is a concept called the "fourth wall" - where the audience/camera is behind an invisible wall. Sometimes the actor will talk directly to the audience/camera, and that is called "breaking the fourth wall" - it is startling sometimes. It breaks the illusion.

                      I think in his own way, Trump does that with the people. He doesn't just talk at them in speeches and such, he 'breaks the fourth wall' and talks to them as if he were standing right there with them, making comments like someone who is part of the audience. He does that with his tweets and in his speeches. He says stuff like "look at these guys! they are a bunch of liars!" and so on. He says what people think. And that upsets the MSM and the regular political actors. But the audience loves it.

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