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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Again let's ignore how Hillary's campaign helped to popularize that racially-based whopper.
    Where that lie originated from is in dispute by the likes of you, but what’s not in doubt is that it was Trump who perpetuated the lie of Obama’s origins for five years...dodging, winking and joking before finally admitting that he was wrong... and he STILL hasn’t offered an apology to Obama for his shameless lying.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    • Source: CNN

      Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman

      US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

      The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.

      http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politi...ans/index.html

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      Source: Breitbart

      Trump Vindicated: Report Says Obama Government Wiretapped Trump Campaign

      The report notes, “such warrants require the approval of top Justice Department and FBI officials” — but doesn’t specify which top Justice Department and FBI officials had approved it.

      Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch and former FBI Director James Comey were leading the agencies, respectively, at the time.

      The report said the first warrant had already expired when Manafort had become the chairman in May. Before he left in August, FBI investigators “noticed what counterintelligence agents thought was a series of odd connections between Trump associates in Russia.”

      A some point, the FBI obtained the new FISA warrant and began monitoring Manafort again — who has a residence in Trump Tower. The story said it’s “unclear” whether the FBI surveillance took place there.

      The Justice Department and the FBI denied that Trump was being wiretapped.

      Comey later in March disputed Trump’s claims — in testimony that lawmakers could now find misleading.

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...rump-campaign/

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      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
        Where that lie originated from is in dispute by the likes of you, but what’s not in doubt is that it was Trump who perpetuated the lie of Obama’s origins for five years...dodging, winking and joking before finally admitting that he was wrong... and he STILL hasn’t offered an apology to Obama for his shameless lying.
        Yeah he did and he deserves all the criticism he gets for it. OTOH hypocrites like you want to exonerate Hillary and her cronies for how they pushed that same falsehood.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Trump Vindicated: Report Says Obama Government Wiretapped Trump Campaign
          So Trump was right, they were being Wiretapped. Where are all the leftists that were claiming that Trump was full of it?
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
            Where that lie originated from is in dispute by the likes of you, but what’s not in doubt is that it was Trump who perpetuated the lie of Obama’s origins for five years...dodging, winking and joking before finally admitting that he was wrong... and he STILL hasn’t offered an apology to Obama for his shameless lying.
            lol obama was the first birther so who cares. he shouldn't lie about himself if he doesn't want others to believe that lie
            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

            There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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            • Originally posted by seer View Post
              So Trump was right, they were being Wiretapped.
              Trump wasn't being wiretapped. It had nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

              Paul Manafort was being wiretapped over the course of years because of his close association with Russian state interests.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Trump wasn't being wiretapped. It had nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

                Paul Manafort was being wiretapped over the course of years because of his close association with Russian state interests.
                But Manafort was part of the presidential campaign, and he lived in Trump Tower. The fact is, no matter how you try and parse it, Trump was correct.
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                  Trump wasn't being wiretapped. It had nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

                  Paul Manafort was being wiretapped over the course of years because of his close association with Russian state interests.
                  Read the report, dumbo. The original investigation into Manafort was ended due to lack of evidence, but then Obama's Justice Department suddenly got interested in him again around the time he started working for Trump. What a coincidence! But there's nothing suspicious about it, right? Just as there's nothing suspicious about Susan Rice explicitly unmasking the names of Trump's associates in classified documents and leaking them to her allies in Washington.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • Actually, the CIA and British were listening in on suspected Russian spies and ran across interceptions of Trump campaign officials talking turkey with Russian nationals.

                    Since the CIA can not do surveillance of US citizens domestically, the matter was handed over to the FBI which presented the evidence to a FISA court, where a judge agreed there was probable cause a criminal matter might be unfolding.

                    Perfectly legal procedure.

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                    • Originally posted by seer View Post
                      But Manafort was part of the presidential campaign,
                      Manafort has a long financial association with Ukraine and Russian leaders. The fact of his being a part of Trump’s campaign is surely an additional cause of suspicion given the long list of those who had meetings with Russian officials, e.g. Jared Kushner,Jeff Sessions, Michael T. Flynn, Donald Trump Jr. and Michael D. Cohen et al

                      and he lived in Trump Tower. The fact is, no matter how you try and parse it, Trump was correct.
                      Living in the same multistory building doesn’t automatically mean that Trump himself was being wiretapped. This was just another Trump lie.
                      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                      • Originally posted by seer View Post
                        But Manafort was part of the presidential campaign, and he lived in Trump Tower. The fact is, no matter how you try and parse it, Trump was correct.
                        Manafort was under investigation long before he was even in the Trump campaign and the fact that he was being wiretapped had nothing to do with Trump or Trump tower even if Trump was picked up in those communications with Manafort. Also, don't you ever ask yourself how and why it was that P. Manafort, someone with known ties to russia and russian backed Ukraine leadership, ended up running the Trump campaign?
                        Last edited by JimL; 09-20-2017, 07:27 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by seer View Post
                          The fact is, no matter how you try and parse it, Trump was correct.
                          Trump says 1) Obama 2) illegally 3) tapped "his" wires at Trump Tower.
                          Story says 1) the FBI 2) legally 3) tapped Manafort's phone.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            Manafort was under investigation long before he was even in the Trump campaign and the fact that he was being wiretapped had nothing to do with Trump or Trump tower even if Trump was picked up in those communications with Manafort. Also, don't you ever ask yourself how and why it was that P. Manafort, someone with known ties to russia and russian backed Ukraine leadership, ended up running the Trump campaign?
                            It is not as though Manafort was the only one of Trump’s associates with Russian connections (all of whom seemed initially to suffer memory loss on the subject) but several still remain a part of Trump’s team e.g. Jared Kushner, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Trump's long-time personal lawyer Michael D. Cohen. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson also has a history of close ties to Russia. So, what is it with Trump and Russia?
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              So, what is it with Trump and Russia?
                              It's almost like he's got a multi-decade history of laundering money for Russian oligarchs.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • LOL, those stupid conservatives and their crazy conspiracy theories. Will they ever realize that the real threat is white supremacist Nazi dictator Trump and Putin, his master?
                                I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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