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  • Is Trumpcare Dead on Arrival?

    It appears that a number of conservative congresspeople are thinking of backstabbing their own president. They may very well try to kill Trumpcare, seeing it simply as Obamacare 2.0.

    We can be sure that none of the Dummycrats will vote for the bill. The Trumplicans can't afford to lose too many of those conservatives, especially in the Senate. Conservatives should realize that their time is done, and step aside for the new generation of Trumplicans. Some, possibly a lot of them are calling for a simple repeal of Obamacare, followed by negotiations on how to replace it. Right, like conservatives could ever decide on a replacement. Hint: they can't.

    What if no bill ever gets passed, and Obamacare stays law for the next four or eight years or more? Health care costs will continue to rise. More and more people and companies won't be able to afford it, so the government will have to pay out more and more subsidies, cranking up the deficit. It would be ironic if conservatives managed to ensure that the very law they've been trying to get rid of stays in place indefinitely.
    Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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    I wasn't aware that Trump was supportive of Obamacare 2.0.
    My understanding was that he wanted a total repeal.
    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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    • #3
      It does need to be repealed. No Obamacare lite.
      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
        I wasn't aware that Trump was supportive of Obamacare 2.0.
        My understanding was that he wanted a total repeal.
        The current Trump healthcare on the table has similarities and high $$$$$. Just wait until the average family receives the bill.

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        • #5
          At this point I'm wondering if this thread is dead on arrival.
          Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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          • #6
            I think trump is trying to placate the dems with a compromise and the republicans will have none of that

            Good for them

            Gut it

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
              At this point I'm wondering if this thread is dead on arrival.
              Zombies rule! No healthcare necessary.

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              • #8
                This bill is called the American Healthcare Act, and President Trump is fully on board with it. He does say that the contents of the bill are open to negotiation.
                Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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                • #9
                  Please don't repeal the no pre existing conditions. ..
                  Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette

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                  • #10
                    I get free health care cause whitey killed us and stole our land.
                    The last Christian left at tweb

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                    • #11
                      This Republicancare bill seems to be 99.9% Obamacare, with about 4 small changes (rather than fine you for not having insurance they fine you when you re-start buying insurance if you stop; they've tinkered with the way the subsidies work to give more money to healthier and richer people and less to sicker and poorer people; the medicaid program starts to shrink in 2020; they're giving some large tax breaks to big insurance companies who pay their CEO's a lot of money).

                      So it seems exactly like Obamacare but with changes that are mostly silly. And it does seem like enough Republicans Senators have said they're just not interested in this bill to make it a non-starter in the Senate.

                      Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
                      What if no bill ever gets passed, and Obamacare stays law for the next four or eight years or more? Health care costs will continue to rise. More and more people and companies won't be able to afford it, so the government will have to pay out more and more subsidies, cranking up the deficit. It would be ironic if conservatives managed to ensure that the very law they've been trying to get rid of stays in place indefinitely.
                      Well a couple of easy ways to stop those costs cranking on up is to allow people an option to buy into medicare which would force private insurance companies to compete against medicare prices, or they could extend medicare to cover everyone, but the Republicans would seem to prefer everyone die than see those things happen.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Trout View Post
                        I get free health care cause whitey killed us and stole our land.
                        Health care should be cheap for anyone who has been killed

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                          It does need to be repealed. No Obamacare lite.
                          Perhaps you can describe in a couple of sentences for us what your ideal healthcare bill would do?
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #14
                            As always, we need to put things in their proper perspective...

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                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Trout View Post
                              I get free health care cause whitey killed us and stole our land.
                              Smoking peace pipes and going on spirit walks is not health care.

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