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Thread: Pope Francis: Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    Actually, as long as they believe that George Washington was the first president of the United States of America, that he served from 1789 to 1797, crossed the River Delaware, defeated the British armies at Trenton and Princeton, retook New Jersey. That he was opposed to dictatorship and was an avowed Republican. Presided over the Constitutional Convention in 1789. Secured the Jay Treaty in 1795. Died in 1799.

    If they believed in all those things, then when you refer to George Washington, regarding that period, and they're referring to George Washington, regarding that period, then you're undoubtedly referring to the same person.
    Is that the one who could hack off a tree with one swing of his axe and fought vampires? Or was that another American dude?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noikodee View Post
    This so called one who is being worshiped as god by human beings born in Islamic faith has no image nor looks like a man or female as per their scripture and as per islamic followers. So it cannot have a color.

    Christian God is father son and holy spirit. If you consider the color of jews and greeks to be white than the skin texture of heavenly father is white if you dont it is not.
    A brown god would be Hindu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post

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    While I agree with this to a degree, again, a skeptic too could look at the Christian past and point out that there were plenty of periods where Christians have not always been peaceful, honest, or loving, and they can point to passages in, say, the Old Testament as evidence that Christian behavior is modeled after God. They may be able to find Islamic nations that are peaceful (they exist), or look back into history where Islamic nations ruled in relative peace.

    To be clear, I'm not saying they are right, but we have be on guard that we don't find ourselves using the same tired old skeptical arguments that are used against us. We have to be better than that.
    The answer to that objection, is that the faults of Christians are contrary to their canonical texts, whereas jihad and fighting unbelievers and the deceitfulness of allah are all commanded in, or appear in, the Koran. Muslims *obey* allah when they go on jihad and kill unbelievers and apostates - whereas Christians are not carrying out a NT command when they do so. The objection is based on a false equivalence.

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