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    Pollution kills more than 1.7 million children a year, WHO reports:

    More than 1.7 million children under the age of 5 die each year due to the effects of living in polluted environments, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

    In a report released Monday, WHO found more than 1 in 4 deaths of children between the ages of 1 month and 5 years old worldwide result from pollution problems including second-hand smoke, dirty water, poor sanitation, inadequate hygiene, and indoor and outdoor air pollution.

    And, of course, in countries like China that have suffered recently from extremely serious air-pollution, doubtless the number of adults who will die early from lung cancer etc will increase drastically.

    This should remind us that effective environmental regulations that ensure clean water and clean air, are not just nice-to-haves or things on the wish-lists of hippies and environmentalists, they are actually a basic moral necessity because they save lives.
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    How about a breakdown in locations.
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    • #3
      Last edited by Terraceth; 03-08-2017, 07:15 PM.

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      • #4
        It's true that the number the journalists have written in the headline of the linked article doesn't seem self-evidently supported by the rest of the article, and I'm not quite sure how they derive it. The report says: "The deaths of 169 250 children under five in 2012 were attributable to ambient air pollution. An additional 531 190 deaths of children under five in 2012 resulted from lower respiratory infections caused by household air pollution."

        I believe the journalists must have derived the 1.7 million number by adding together the numbers given later in the article (which add to give around 1.6 million) that were apparently given by another WHO report which broke down the causes of death - however not all those causes were due to pollution per se (e.g. 200,000 children under age 5 die from unintentional injuries attributable to hazardous environments, including poisonings, falls and drowning... that doesn't seem like "pollution").

        It appears that the correct numbers for pollution are ~570,000 per year for air pollution, and ~361,000 per year for water pollution, which adds to around about 1 million total per year. Good observation. Poor headline on the part of the linked article.

        One of the other things the WHO report emphasizes, I note, from skimming it, is that lead is a huge problem. (Lead from water or paint or gas fumes accumulates in the brain and causes brain damage and lowers IQ and many scientists believe it increases violent tendencies) In the report it gives no numbers for lead-caused deaths, though on their website they cite a figure of lead causing "853 000 deaths due to long-term effects on health" but I presume those are all adult deaths given the words "long-term". Obviously that has implications for current US policy - Trump wants to do a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill so ripping up and replacing every single lead pipe in America seems like a good choice to start off with and he can replace them all with "American-made steel" or whatever floats his boat.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #5
          Abortion kills more. Why not get rid of both.
          A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Catholicity View Post
            Abortion kills more. Why not get rid of both.
            Awww... ya beat me to it!!
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            • #7
              I don't know why Star is so upset over this.

              It just fulfills his okay-ness with killing young children. He should be glad this is happening.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                It just fulfills his okay-ness with killing young children. He should be glad this is happening.
                And decrease the surplus population...

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                • #9
                  Looks like pollution is giving your average atheist dictator a run for his money.
                  Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                  • #10
                    This is one of those funny issues, because nobody is against clean air and water. It's just that some of us don't think that checking off every item on the liberal/socialist wishlist is the best way to accomplish it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      Awww... ya beat me to it!!
                      That was one of those rare moments Bill.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        This is one of those funny issues, because nobody is against clean air and water. It's just that some of us don't think that checking off every item on the liberal/socialist wishlist is the best way to accomplish it.
                        Especially since the majority of those deaths is outside of America (which makes them no less horrible) so using those figures to support legislation in the USA is dishonest.
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                        • #13
                          But that's how liberals operate, put the screws to the US and let other countries do whatever they want.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                            Especially since the majority of those deaths is outside of America (which makes them no less horrible) so using those figures to support legislation in the USA is dishonest.
                            Except that much of our pollution is 'off shored'.
                            Much of the electronic waste we produce is shipped overseas for recycling.

                            I don't know how much of an impact that makes but there is a 'stream' of waste to consider here.
                            Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                              Except that much of our pollution is 'off shored'.
                              Much of the electronic waste we produce is shipped overseas for recycling.

                              I don't know how much of an impact that makes but there is a 'stream' of waste to consider here.
                              I thought we just dumped it in the ocean to kill the whales?

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