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Originally posted by Roy View PostThat's quite a challenge. I can certainly provide examples I would accept - such as the Empire state building being converted floor-by-floor to high-tensile yellow gingerbread while occupied by thousands of people during a CNN live broadcast - but I couldn't guantee that Tassman would accept them.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostThat's quite a challenge. I can certainly provide examples I would accept - such as the Empire state building being converted floor-by-floor to high-tensile yellow gingerbread while occupied by thousands of people during a CNN live broadcast - but I couldn't guantee that Tassman would accept them.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostHow would you know that it was a supernatural occurrence and not the result of particularly intelligent aliens messing with your mind?. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostAnd you know for sure your mind is not being messed with (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI'm pretty sure that your mind is being messed with, given that you keep quoting folk-lore as authoritative.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostCome now, I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostNo. What oral tradition are you referring to? Be specific.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/evid...u-might-think/“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post“Folklore” is defined as the traditional beliefs, legends, customs, etc., of a people; and this better applies to the NT than regarding it as reliable history...let alone inspired by God. “Evidence for Jesus is weaker than you might think. The more sophisticated antiquities scholarship becomes, the more it becomes clear that the origins of Christianity are controversial, convoluted, and not very coherent. “
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/evid...u-might-think/1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post“Folklore” is defined as the traditional beliefs, legends, customs, etc., of a people; and this better applies to the NT than regarding it as reliable history...let alone inspired by God. “Evidence for Jesus is weaker than you might think. The more sophisticated antiquities scholarship becomes, the more it becomes clear that the origins of Christianity are controversial, convoluted, and not very coherent. “
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/evid...u-might-think/. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostFolklore is oral transmission of a story. Once something is written down, it is no longer oral. What proof do you have what was written in the accounts was nothing more than folklore before being written down?
Originally posted by tabibito View PostA tired rehash of rehashed claims, some of which have been refuted - others being simply a matter of jaundiced readings.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Doug Shaver View PostIt was no more credulous than any other age has been.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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