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      Someone needs to put a laugh track on this one...Nancy Pelosi talking about morals...............hahaahaha.....oh man.......a good laugh before bed....whew!
      "The road goes ever on and on, down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the road has gone and I must follow if I can. Pursuing it with eager feet until it joins some larger way, where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say." - Tolkien

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      What's the problem ? John's first chapter.

      Sounds like she is talking about that and goes farther, speaking of her own Christian faith in Jesus Christ, and in a way that is understandable to me as a Christian.


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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
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      In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was aborted and thrown away as medical waste.

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      Do you know the reach of their thought? Or do you think, perhaps, that their thought is upon you, and that they may shield you from afar?'

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      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      What's the problem ? John's first chapter.

      Sounds like she is talking about that and goes farther, speaking of her own Christian faith in Jesus Christ, and in a way that is understandable to me as a Christian.


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      What is so understandable? She said a few buzzwords and then gloated over them like a political vulture. She's a vile woman, and that she attempted to barf out the basics of the faith by saying "word" over and over and mentioning the "gospels" is certainly surprising. And she never spoke of her Christian faith in Jesus Christ. She managed a whole little speech without mentioning anything like that.

      But I'm glad that spoke to you.

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      No, that isn't so. She did more than you say. I'm not judging her sincerity of faith (how can I ?) or this or that of her morality; only what the woman actually said...in words. The dialogue is there; you provided it, Philosophickle. Because you did, other people coming to this thread will make up their own minds about what they hear her saying there. The audio is clear.


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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
      (Pastor Greg Boyd.)

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      Actions speak louder than words...that is all.
      "The road goes ever on and on, down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the road has gone and I must follow if I can. Pursuing it with eager feet until it joins some larger way, where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say." - Tolkien

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      Quote Originally posted by Brandalf85 View Post
      Actions speak louder than words...that is all.
      What are her other sins ? (Seriously, I don't know. I know that she wants abortion to remain legal.)


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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
      (Pastor Greg Boyd.)

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      Quote Originally posted by Philosophickle View Post
      What is so understandable? She said a few buzzwords and then gloated over them like a political vulture. She's a vile woman, and that she attempted to barf out the basics of the faith by saying "word" over and over and mentioning the "gospels" is certainly surprising. And she never spoke of her Christian faith in Jesus Christ. She managed a whole little speech without mentioning anything like that.

      But I'm glad that spoke to you.
      She's pro gay marriage (I add this to what I just posted about abortion). Abortion/infanticide is a 'variant' of sorts, though very real and deadly serious a sin, of the 10 Commandments command of "Thou Shalt Not Kill (Murder)."

      Understand that I'm not a fan of Pelosi, No; but I am 'a fan' of being simply fair, at least, when it comes to your OP, Philosophicke.


      Uugh, this is alot of trouble, but since you have said sarcastically to me that her 1: 17 minute speech to a Catholic group (she is Catholic) should not have "spoken to me" for it isn't understandable, let me give you a rundown on what she actually said:

      She does stumble a little verbally, but not very much. Let's see the points::

      0: 21 - "The Word is everything...says it all for us."

      0: 26 - "We all know the Biblical..gospel reference for The Word."

      0: 40 - "[The Word] ought give voice to public policy in keeping with the values of.. The Word."
      FAULT HER HERE ON ABORTION; I AGREE.

      1: 00 - Pelosi essentially quotes John 1: 14a. Here she establishes her claimed faith in Jesus' incarnation and deity. Here is Who The Word is to her. It's Jesus Christ and no One else. So let's be accurate about that; she DID speak of her Christian faith. You were mistaken about that, Philosophicke.

      1: 06 - ref. to "our (her) faith....." & "The Word,' Jesus, 'will come again."

      1:11 - "[We must be] prepared to answer [to God]..for how we have measured up."

      (The dialogue is then cut away from by the YouTuber who submitted it.)




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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
      (Pastor Greg Boyd.)

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      Quote Originally posted by Philosophickle View Post
      What is so understandable? She said a few buzzwords and then gloated over them like a political vulture. She's a vile woman, and that she attempted to barf out the basics of the faith by saying "word" over and over and mentioning the "gospels" is certainly surprising. And she never spoke of her Christian faith in Jesus Christ. She managed a whole little speech without mentioning anything like that.

      But I'm glad that spoke to you.
      The accusation Pelosi is "a vile woman" is laughable in this context. In exactly what manner is she allegedly more "vile" than Palin?

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      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      What are her other sins ? (Seriously, I don't know. I know that she wants abortion to remain legal.)


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      Which, of course, is most definitely no "sin" and the suggestion it is is certainly ridiculous.

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      Quote Originally posted by Da Blonde View Post
      Which, of course, is most definitely no "sin" and the suggestion it is is certainly ridiculous.
      Murder is a sin and deliberately killing an innocent human being is murder. abortion kills an innocent human being. when a human sperm and human eggs merge the end result of a viable growth is NOT a cat or a tree it is a human being.
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      Quote Originally posted by Da Blonde View Post
      Which, of course, is most definitely no "sin" and the suggestion it is is certainly ridiculous.
      And, of course, you do realize that this word/concept "sin" is a Biblical one and so my suggestion that abortion/infanticide fits the Biblical definition of sin is not ridiculous. You still remember where you have come back to and are in, right ? ...Christian owned and operated website, so do not ever be surprised at the notion here that abortion is considered a sin.


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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
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      Quote Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
      Murder is a sin and deliberately killing an innocent human being is murder. abortion kills an innocent human being. when a human sperm and human eggs merge the end result of a viable growth is NOT a cat or a tree it is a human being.
      An assertion full of run on sentences and emotionalistic whining does not help your case.

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      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      And, of course, you do realize that this word/concept "sin" is a Biblical one and so my suggestion that abortion/infanticide fits the Biblical definition of sin is not ridiculous. You still remember where you have come back to and are in, right ? ...Christian owned and operated website, so do not ever be surprised at the notion here that abortion is considered a sin.


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      That's a non sequitur. Religious affiliation is not a matter of political correctness.

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