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    I saw the first few films (I think order of phoenix was the last one), barely remember what they were about and never felt the slightest impulse to finish the entire series. It's a boring series and the cultural excrement that is a byproduct of this kind of Soylent Entertainment is omnipresent and nauseating (it's getting almost as bad as Star Wars).

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    I enjoy the SFX in the movies, but some of my favorite scenes are little ones:

    -- The scene in "Prisoner of Azkaban" where Hermione first reveals the time-turner to Harry. He instinctively reaches for it curiously, and she just quickly slaps his hand without saying a word. That is just such a natural, "real" interaction.

    -- The scene in "Half-blood Prince," when Ron is in the infirmary after being poisoned. I love the "You daft bimbo!" and "Oh, to be young, and to feel love's keen sting."

    -- The scene in "Deathly Hallows," where Ron and Harry are sitting in the tent, Ron gives Harry the replacement wand taken from a snatcher, and Harry tests it. "Engorgio... REDUCIO!!!!"

    -- In "Half-blood Prince," the way Hermione looks at Harry when she realizes he didn't *actually* dose Ron with Liquid Luck."

    -- In "Deathly Hallows," the expression on the MoM's face when he oh-so-carefully hands Harry the snitch, Harry casually takes it from him with neither concern nor caution, and... nothing happens. The reason for he MoM's expression only becomes clear later, when they talk about the snitch having "flesh memory."
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    Harry Potter just developed a cult following so I swore I'd never read the books or watch the movies. My family does the same thing once in a while. Something happens that develops a cult and we just decide forget it and ignore it. Mom did it with "Friends" Dad with "Seinfeld" etc. Mine was Harry Potter. It was too in your face "you have to you should you must" so I just said forget it. Not interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    LOTR is a whole nother kettle of fish. I have read those books more times than I can count - I lost track somewhere in the 20s. I never have gotten tired of them or the Hobbit. The movies tend to steam me a little. They are generally okay, but too, too hollywoodized. I have watched them a couple of times but, meh . . .
    The scene where the Ring is dropped in the snow and Boromir picks it up, looks longingly at it, and returns it to Frodo, is not in the book, and would probably be impossible - but it is powerful, and foreshadows book!Boromir's attempt to take the Ring.

    The over-Arwenisation of the films was much less tactful. The Hollywood addiction to injecting hefty dollops of romance into stories ignores the mores of those stories: if romance is not prominent in a story, it is not because the author is "sexist", but because the logic of the story has no need for such fripperies. Another blemish was the turning of Legolas into a Zorro-figure - one thinks especially of those silly acrobatics with the mumak. Another, perhaps related fault, was the turning of Gimli into something unpleasantly like comedy relief: the nobility and gravitas of the character were obliterated. The loss of his speech praising the Glittering Caves of Aglarond to Legolas did not help. Gimli is a figure of substance, and the films undermine this.

    And the loss of the Scouring of the Shire falsified the story, allowing the closing scenes to become sentimentalised: in reality, the Scouring shows that Saruman had endangered many Hobbits, and that those on the Quest were not the only ones in danger. Leaving out the Scouring contributes to the false impression that everything in the Shire was jolly, and that only the Hobbits on the Quest were touched by the evils caused by the Ring. Tolkien was under no such illusions. The evil of the Ring, by corrupting Saruman, corrupted the Shire, and only the Scouring of the Shire contained it. But to make good the material damage - the loss of life could not be undone - Galadriel's gift to Sam was needed. All this was lost, in the PJ version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushing Jaws View Post
    The scene where the Ring is dropped in the snow and Boromir picks it up, looks longingly at it, and returns it to Frodo, is not in the book, and would probably be impossible - but it is powerful, and foreshadows book!Boromir's attempt to take the Ring.

    The over-Arwenisation of the films was much less tactful. The Hollywood addiction to injecting hefty dollops of romance into stories ignores the mores of those stories: if romance is not prominent in a story, it is not because the author is "sexist", but because the logic of the story has no need for such fripperies. Another blemish was the turning of Legolas into a Zorro-figure - one thinks especially of those silly acrobatics with the mumak. Another, perhaps related fault, was the turning of Gimli into something unpleasantly like comedy relief: the nobility and gravitas of the character were obliterated. The loss of his speech praising the Glittering Caves of Aglarond to Legolas did not help. Gimli is a figure of substance, and the films undermine this.

    And the loss of the Scouring of the Shire falsified the story, allowing the closing scenes to become sentimentalised: in reality, the Scouring shows that Saruman had endangered many Hobbits, and that those on the Quest were not the only ones in danger. Leaving out the Scouring contributes to the false impression that everything in the Shire was jolly, and that only the Hobbits on the Quest were touched by the evils caused by the Ring. Tolkien was under no such illusions. The evil of the Ring, by corrupting Saruman, corrupted the Shire, and only the Scouring of the Shire contained it. But to make good the material damage - the loss of life could not be undone - Galadriel's gift to Sam was needed. All this was lost, in the PJ version.
    Like I said, too hollywoodized. There were many other instances.
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    Finished Deathly Hallows Part 1 last night and dear lord it was boring. The majority of the movie was Harry, Ron, and Hermione "hunting for horcruxes," which essentially boiled down to the three of them whining a bit, Harry and Hermione pissing off Ron, Hermione breaking Harry's wand, and...yeah, actually, that about sums up the movie.

    Apparently Harry is the world's last hope against Moldy, because all of the other good wizards are just...going along with Voldemort now, or something. Harry has no idea what he's doing as "the chosen one." I feel like Rowling must have really hit a wall when writing the first half of this book, because wow...most boring camping trip ever.
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    I'll say at least one good thing about the movies: Snape was really well-cast, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Why is there a parks and rec quote over a picture I'm assuming is from supernatural

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    My biggest regret of the series is that Harry and Ginny didn't name one of their sons Larry at the end.
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