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    Harry Potter

    I read the books like 8 years ago. Thought they were ok, I guess. I'm watching the movies now. These are just random thoughts of mine...

    Is it just me, or is suspension of disbelief impossible with the Harry Potter series? Something about it just utterly fails to click with me. Maybe it's how annoying the characters are (e.g., Harry Potter), maybe it's how dumb most of them seem to be (e.g., Harry Potter), or maybe it's how utterly helpless all these ultra-powerful wizards seem to be (e.g., Harry Potter, Voldemort).

    If the intention was to make Voldemort look scary, they failed. I think his man-rat minion is a better villain than he is. In the first two movies, Draco Malfoy looks like he's trying to impersonate Donald Trump with that hairdo. His dad is a lousy LotR elf impersonator.

    The school seems like an exceptionally dangerous place with very poor security. (For example, the troll from the first movie, the petrification in the second, the escaped prisoner and demented Nazgul wannabes in the third, Moldy's minion in the fourth, and I haven't gotten further yet.) And Albatross Dumbly (this might sound better than his actual name) does...nothing about it all, apparently? What exactly does he do at that school, anyway?

    Everyone is scared to death of Voldemort for some reason, even though he's repeatedly defeated by Harry, a prepubescent kid who's not exactly a bright candle himself.

    I watched Omelet of Fire last night, and at one point Harry said something like, "I don't know what my strengths are."

    Yeah, me neither.
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    I have not read the books. I have watched all the movies, repeatedly. I eagerly await the first weekend of every month when Freeform TV runs a Potterpalooza for the whole weekend, and every month I chafe at the inexplicable omission of "Order of the Phoenix," my favorite of the lot.

    I don't know why "suspension of disbelief" would be any more difficult with HP than with LOTR or any "superhero" flick or book.

    While I have not read the books, I have read *about* the books, and how they compare and contrast with the movies. In most cases I prefer the "book" version, though I do prefer the cinematic rendering of Snape's appearance. Severus is my favorite character, though I do appreciate Harry more now that I've seen details the movies omit or gloss over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    I have not read the books. I have watched all the movies, repeatedly. I eagerly await the first weekend of every month when Freeform TV runs a Potterpalooza for the whole weekend, and every month I chafe at the inexplicable omission of "Order of the Phoenix," my favorite of the lot.

    I don't know why "suspension of disbelief" would be any more difficult with HP than with LOTR or any "superhero" flick or book.

    While I have not read the books, I have read *about* the books, and how they compare and contrast with the movies. In most cases I prefer the "book" version, though I do prefer the cinematic rendering of Snape's appearance. Severus is my favorite character, though I do appreciate Harry more now that I've seen details the movies omit or gloss over.
    I don't think I can describe it; something about it just doesn't work for me. It reads/watches like very clumsy fiction.

    But this thread wasn't intended seriously. I find the Harry Potter series unusually fun to mock, so if anyone here is a big fan of it, I'd like to say two things:

    1. I can recommend some good fantasy for you, and
    2. Don't be offended by my opinion of Harry Potter

    It's all in good fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    I don't think I can describe it; something about it just doesn't work for me. It reads/watches like very clumsy fiction.

    But this thread wasn't intended seriously. I find the Harry Potter series unusually fun to mock, so if anyone here is a big fan of it, I'd like to say two things:

    1. I can recommend some good fantasy for you, and
    2. Don't be offended by my opinion of Harry Potter

    It's all in good fun.
    I am profoundly offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewriteranon View Post
    I am profoundly offended.
    Well, as long as it's profound, that's ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    Well, as long as it's profound, that's ok.
    Everything I do is profound.

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    The titles are fun to rethink:

    Harry Potter and the Stoned Philosopher
    Harry's Chamber Pot of Secrets
    Harry Potter becomes a Stickler for Ampersands
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewriteranon View Post
    I am profoundly offended.
    For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

    Snowflake.

    I'm not even wearing flannel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    I read the books like 8 years ago. Thought they were ok, I guess. I'm watching the movies now. These are just random thoughts of mine...

    Is it just me, or is suspension of disbelief impossible with the Harry Potter series? Something about it just utterly fails to click with me. Maybe it's how annoying the characters are (e.g., Harry Potter), maybe it's how dumb most of them seem to be (e.g., Harry Potter), or maybe it's how utterly helpless all these ultra-powerful wizards seem to be (e.g., Harry Potter, Voldemort).

    If the intention was to make Voldemort look scary, they failed. I think his man-rat minion is a better villain than he is. In the first two movies, Draco Malfoy looks like he's trying to impersonate Donald Trump with that hairdo. His dad is a lousy LotR elf impersonator.

    The school seems like an exceptionally dangerous place with very poor security. (For example, the troll from the first movie, the petrification in the second, the escaped prisoner and demented Nazgul wannabes in the third, Moldy's minion in the fourth, and I haven't gotten further yet.) And Albatross Dumbly (this might sound better than his actual name) does...nothing about it all, apparently? What exactly does he do at that school, anyway?

    Everyone is scared to death of Voldemort for some reason, even though he's repeatedly defeated by Harry, a prepubescent kid who's not exactly a bright candle himself.

    I watched Omelet of Fire last night, and at one point Harry said something like, "I don't know what my strengths are."

    Yeah, me neither.
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    You DO realize they're CHILDREN'S books right?

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