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    Professional politicians

    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    The thing is, you could still be a career politician, even with term limits in place. State house=>state sen=>House>senate>gov>etc. The Romans called their sequence of offices the "cursus honorum." We could institute something similar because there are strengths to being a legislative veteran. But at the same time, it limits a person's ability to do too much damage in any one spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guacamole View Post
    The thing is, you could still be a career politician, even with term limits in place. State house=>state sen=>House>senate>gov>etc. The Romans called their sequence of offices the "cursus honorum." We could institute something similar because there are strengths to being a legislative veteran. But at the same time, it limits a person's ability to do too much damage in any one spot.
    I like the way you think.

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    Wouldn't of saved the conservatives from Obama though, unless you limit state senators to two terms or fewer.
    ""When I sat with the victim's father, who is a military veteran, and his pastor, and we shed tears together ... I can tell you, it rips your heart out."
    As written about Lt. Richard Collins III, martyred by an alt-right terrorist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guacamole View Post
    Wouldn't of saved the conservatives from Obama though, unless you limit state senators to two terms or fewer.
    I think politicians should have a running tally of something like a star rating. They start out with 3 out of 5 stars. If they do a good job people can up their rating, if they do a poor job their rating goes down. Just like hotels. If they fall below two stars they are booted out and can never run for any political office again.





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    I support a single term per lifetime. No retirement no perks. I find the strengths of legislative experience to be virtually all negative for the nation. I support citizen legislators. The vast majority of laws passed are to the disadvantage to the country, even if they seem good at first blush.
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    I tend to think that Senators and the House should have the same terms as the President 2 and 2 only.
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    I've been getting depressed by politicians and elections lately, and have been wondering if doing political appointments by a random lottery is a better way to go. That was how the ancient Greeks did it and was the original form of "democracy". It means that real people are put into power, that they don't serve too long, and that they don't need to take money to campaign or spend all their time lying to the media, they can just get on with governing. We do this with Jury Service, so why not government itself? You could potentially have an opt-in system (i.e. only people who have chosen to put their names forward are eligible for random selection) or an opt-out system (i.e. everyone's in but can refuse to serve if selected), or some sort of vetting process akin to jury selection to ensure the chosen people are up to scratch (maybe you could have a randomly selected jury vetting each randomly selected candidate or something, and that jury can vote Y/N to the person serving after asking them questions under oath).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I think politicians should have a running tally of something like a star rating. They start out with 3 out of 5 stars. If they do a good job people can up their rating, if they do a poor job their rating goes down. Just like hotels. If they fall below two stars they are booted out and can never run for any political office again.





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    Except for the last sentence that's pretty much how elections are supposed to work. There are regular house cleanings where large numbers get voted out of office every so often (the last one was 2010) but due to the nature of the Senate election cycle only ⅓ of Senators are up for re-election every 2 years so ⅔ of them are unaffected. Then again, that was exactly how the Founding Fathers wanted it. Of they also didn't envision career politicians ensconced in their positions for decades.

    We need more people like Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.
    Last edited by rogue06; 03-20-2017 at 05:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Except for the last sentence that's pretty much how elections are supposed to work. There are regular house cleanings where large numbers get voted out of office every so often (the last one was 2010) but due to the nature of the Senate election cycle only ⅓ are up for re-election every 2 years so ⅔ of them are unaffected. Then again, that was exactly how the Founding Fathers wanted it. Of they also didn't envision career politicians ensconced in their positions for decades.
    I think one of the problems with US politics is the elections in the House are too frequent. Running any election campaign is expensive and requires money to do advertising and campaign. If a congressperson has to re-run for office every two years then that requires a lot of financial expenditure of their part, which means they need to smooze the donors a whole lot in a comparatively short time-frame. Simply increasing their term length would decrease the amount of donor-smoozing they need to do, and would mean they would have more time for actual governing and wouldn't need to spend as much time campaigning and fundraising.

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