Originally posted by OtherCheek
Yea, Many modern Christians built on the rock of archeology, instead of the Rock of Christ it seems. It all seems to come down to the science of archeology is the ultimate ROCK and support of Christianity.
That is a classic example of sour grapes, OC. You have archeology envy.
I never even CONSIDERED "archeology" when I accepted Christ. YOU convinced me it is part of my heritage, just in arguing back and forth.
It's like asking the question to a room full of people "how many of you are involved in agriculture?" Two people raise their hands - one a farmer, the other a lady with a back yard garden. Then you "rephrase" the question, and ask, "how many of you EAT?" ALL raise their hands, because, suddenly, they realize they ALL are "involved in agriculture".
I cannot help it that there is, in fact, quite a bit of archeology to support my faith and my Bible. It is not WHY I believe, but it does not change the fact that it's THERE.
You, OTOH, cannot change the fact that there is precious little, if ANY, "proof" for the BoM.
I never knew that Mormons were discouraged from wearing "crosses". It kind of makes sense, though, because it reinforces the idea that physical objects can remind us of fundamental spiritual truths, and Mormons seem to be against any such thing.
But, speaking of ROCKS, when Joshua and his people were "clean passed over" Jordan, the Lord told Joshua to have one man from each of the 12 tribes take a rock from the middle of the Jordan and Joshua carried them to Gilgal, so... (Joshua 4:6) That this may be a sign among you, that when your children ask their fathers in time to come, saying, What mean ye by these stones? (7) Then ye shall answer them, That the waters of Jordan were cut off before the ark of the covenant of the LORD; when it passed over Jordan, the waters of Jordan were cut off: and these stones shall be for a memorial unto the children of Israel for ever.
It seems like God doesn't have a problem with archeology. If you and I were to be standing at that pile of rocks today, I would be thrilled to know that they were a physical testament ORDERED BY THE LORD to show my children "what mean these stones".
Those stones are yet another testament of God's provision for his people.
Tell me, OC... do you have any desire whatsoever to see the Holy Land? To walk where Jesus walked... to see the Dead Sea or the Sea of Galilee? Or do you scoff and say "I don't have any interest in seeing those PHYSICAL things...."
Do you wear a wedding ring? You don't NEED it, do you? You are married, and you and your wife both know you are married. Your kids know you're married. Your friends know you're married. Probably everybody in your stake knows you're married. So why wear a ring? Because it is a PHYSICAL sign, an outward indication, a token of something very special. I wear one, and I've been married 35 years! I don't remember much about NOT BEING married! I can't FORGET I'm married. But I wear a ring as a physical token of that marriage.
That's all a cross is - a physical reminder of something very special - that Christ died for us.
God, who created us, knows how our minds work. He knows that when we see THINGS, it reminds us of THOUGHTS, or events associated with those things.
For you to claim that many Christian's faith is built on the rock of archeology INSTEAD of the Rock of Christ is just plain foolishness. It doesn't have to be an either/or. In fact, it's not. It just so happens that there is a lot of "physical connection" between God's Word and God's world. HE did that. And I'm glad He did.
Verse 8 of Joshua 4 says "And the children of Israel did so as Joshua commanded, and took up twelve stones out of the midst of Jordan, as the LORD spake unto Joshua, according to the number of the tribes of the children of Israel, and carried them over with them unto the place where they lodged, and laid them down there."
WHY did they go through this exercise? PROOF to subsequent generations. And that's not just my opinion -- the Lord command it.
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