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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostEcumenism is rarely worth it. An attempt to understand differences so they can be resolved is fine; lowest common denominator ecumenism, however, is revolting.
The ARCIC documents are a bad joke - what little value they had is undermined by more recent developments. Ecumenists seem to think that once there is some measure of notional agreement, the behavioural decisions of the participating bodies is of no great importance. ARCIC needs to be scrapped, and begun again from scratch. ARCIC's statement on the Ministry has nothing to say about Anglican priestesses or gay Anglican bishops or bishopesses, so it is even more liable to criticism than it was when it first came out. And it does absolutely nothing to explain how Geneva-minded Anglicans, who find the Catholic priesthood with its objective and visible Sacrifice of the Mass abhorrent, can be expected to agree with the Catholic doctrine. Anglican apologists, and the official doctrinal and confessional statements of the C of E, have for centuries insisted, in the clearest and most uncompromising terms, that the Mass is blasphemous. This is a perfectly intelligible position, and it is impossible to retcon 400 years of Anglicanism (not all of it confined to the C of E) to pass off Anglican Eucharistic doctrine as indistinguishable from that of the CC. It was not, and is not.
Honest and principled disagreement, graciously and charitably intended and expressed, is far better than that.
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostWhere's my smiley holding a lighter when I need it.
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https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0029/0029_01.asp
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAccording to Jack Chick, the Pope is the one who invented Islam in the first place so him facing Mecca to pray is just par for the course.
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https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0029/0029_01.asp"Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostYeah. My smileys dialogue box is no working.
Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAccording to Jack Chick, the Pope is the one who invented Islam in the first place so him facing Mecca to pray is just par for the course.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostLOL. That takes me back. They gave me that exact one as a reward once at AWANA, and for years afterwards, I believed that stuff. "Dark Dungeons" is my favorite though.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
Has anyone bothered to find the text of the Islamic prayers that were used? Were they nice prayers? Did they honor and glorify God, the creator of the universe? Or were they addressed to Satan or some other evil being?אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostDid they honor and glorify God, the creator of the universe? Or were they addressed to Satan or some other evil being?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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