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    Paige Patterson encourages Calvinists to leave Southern Baptist Convention

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscr...=socialnetwork

    The other speaker at the chapel used a particularly bad argument; guilt by association because some Calvinists smoke and drink.
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    Odd, since Baptists seem to be more Calvinists than not IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Odd, since Baptists seem to be more Calvinists than not IIRC.
    I'd bet almost anything your average churchgoer has no idea what Calvinism is.
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    In my experience, most Baptists aren't intellectual enough to fully embrace Calvinism, or to fully adopt (or create) any competing system. But there is a lot of Calvinist influence in the Southern Baptist Convention. Also, it's sad that they focus more on their man-made rules against drinking than they do on their formation of theology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I'd bet almost anything your average churchgoer has no idea what Calvinism is.
    In that case, I'm not sure I've ever encountered an "average churchgoer."
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    They can't become Presbyterians because they were fated to be Baptists. They have no choice.


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    As an outsider, I may not fully understand all of the theological nuances involved, but perhaps her position could be summarized as, 'Of course God loves everyone, even Calvinists, but not enough to let them have an occasional glass of wine.'
    βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον
    ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

    אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I'd bet almost anything your average churchgoer has no idea what Calvinism is.
    I'd take that bet!


    (only if I wanted to lose bigly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    In my experience, most Baptists aren't intellectual enough....
    wow

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    wow
    Obsidian gonna Obsidian.
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