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  • I'll believe the White House before I believe any fake news outlet.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      I'll believe the White House before I believe any fake news outlet.
      If only it wasn't that the White House seems to have become a fake news outlet in and of itself.
      "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        I'll believe the White House before I believe any fake news outlet.
        It is the those under Trump in the White House that have had to change there stories over time concerning contacts and meetings with the Russians. The news sources have only reported the progressive problem those involved not getting their stories straight, and constantly changing their testimony and written records.
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

        Frank

        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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        • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          It is the those under Trump in the White House that have had to change there stories over time concerning contacts and meetings with the Russians. The news sources have only reported the progressive problem those involved not getting their stories straight, and constantly changing their testimony and written records.
          With an ever-fluid definition of what constitutes an "official", it's no wonder businessmen have to adjust their statements...
          That's what
          - She

          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            I'll believe the White House before I believe any fake news outlet.
            Thats your problem MM. You haven't got an objective cell in your brain. You'll believe the known pathological liar in the White House, because thats who you want to believe.

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            • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
              With an ever-fluid definition of what constitutes an "official", it's no wonder businessmen have to adjust their statements...
              . and lie and lie in the process consulting their lawyers in the process. CYA rules in justifying lies, which only convinces the groupies that cling to Donny Boy's cap.
              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

              go with the flow the river knows . . .

              Frank

              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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              • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                It is the those under Trump in the White House that have had to change there stories over time concerning contacts and meetings with the Russians. The news sources have only reported the progressive problem those involved not getting their stories straight, and constantly changing their testimony and written records.
                Yes, but the poor WH staff is not dealing with a stable or honest person. And his growing paranoia as the Russia investigation gets closer to his financial dealings, makes him even less stable. He will likely pardon those complicit in the scandals, including, of course, his family, but also (as a way to keep them from cooperating with Mueller's investigation), Manafort, Flynn etc. Every move will further inflame the reasonable and rational parts of the Republicans and the public. Ultimately, one hopes to remove him. Because, for any rational human being, Trump has severe psychological problems rendering him dangerously unfit to have the power he now holds.
                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                  . and lie and lie in the process consulting their lawyers in the process. CYA rules in justifying lies, which only convinces the groupies that cling to Donny Boy's cap.
                  God, you are a moron!!
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    Thats your problem MM. You haven't got an objective cell in your brain. You'll believe the known pathological liar in the White House, because thats who you want to believe.
                    Oh, the irony.
                    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                    Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
                    sigpic
                    I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                    • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                      Thats your problem MM. You haven't got an objective cell in your brain. You'll believe the known pathological liar in the White House, because thats who you want to believe.
                      Actually, I believe it because there are no hard facts disputing the official statement, only idle rumor and innuendo.

                      But facts don't matter, only the seriousness of the accusation, right Little Jimmy?
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Actually, I believe it because there are no hard facts disputing the official statement, only idle rumor and innuendo.

                        But facts don't matter, only the seriousness of the accusation, right Little Jimmy?
                        We should be very thankful for all these solid arguments...
                        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                        • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          Oh, the irony.
                          No, actually unlike yourself and MM, I know a pathological liar when I see one. You idiots rant on about fake news, because the King of fake himself, Donald Trump, tells you over and over its all fake news. One thing about Trump, he understood his constituency right away, he thinks you're all, political speaking, morons. He knows that as your sheperd, he can do whatever, and say whatever and he won't lose any support from the dumb flock.

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                          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            No, actually unlike yourself and MM, I know a pathological liar when I see one. You idiots rant on about fake news, because the King of fake himself, Donald Trump, tells you over and over its all fake news. One thing about Trump, he understood his constituency right away, he thinks you're all, political speaking, morons. He knows that as your sheperd, he can do whatever, and say whatever and he won't lose any support from the dumb flock.
                            More irony. Delicious!

                            Look, I've told you repeatedly that I'm far from an unqualified Trump supporter. I'm sorry that doesn't fit your narrative.
                            Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                            Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
                            sigpic
                            I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                            • Originally posted by Chuckles View Post
                              We should be very thankful for all these solid arguments...
                              Thank you.

                              Now do you have an actual rebuttal to my solid argument that "there are no hard facts disputing the official statement, only idle rumor and innuendo", or are you going continue impotently sniping from the sidelines with an empty quiver?
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                                No, actually unlike yourself and MM, I know a pathological liar when I see one. You idiots rant on about fake news, because the King of fake himself, Donald Trump, tells you over and over its all fake news. One thing about Trump, he understood his constituency right away, he thinks you're all, political speaking, morons. He knows that as your sheperd, he can do whatever, and say whatever and he won't lose any support from the dumb flock.
                                Really, Jimmy? The ad hominem fallacy? Is that the best you can do?

                                Come on, you call Trump a liar. Fine. Prove it. Where are the hard facts disputing the White House's official statement about the after dinner grip-and-grin with Putin?
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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