Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians

[shunyadragon]

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/trump-today-live-updates?lf-content=191183814:lb-post-cbf114ea1900ab904e59dc3101b05ffe@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink

Sources: UK, European intelligence intercepted contacts between Trump associates and Russia
From CNN's Jim Sciutto:

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[Bill the Cat]

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/trump-today-live-updates?lf-content=191183814:lb-post-cbf114ea1900ab904e59dc3101b05ffe@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink

Sources: UK, European intelligence intercepted contacts between Trump associates and Russia
From CNN's Jim Sciutto:

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And the contents of those communications were....

[Mountain Man]

And the contents of those communications were....

It doesn't matter, man! They were communicating with Russia!!! Isn't that enough?!

[Mountain Man]

And never mind the fact that there are concrete ties between Russia and Team Hillary going back to when she was Secretary of State! That's just a distraction!!!!

[Sparko]

Yeah they keep conveniently forgetting that communicating with Russians is not illegal. Since Trump does business all over the world, including Russia, it is to be expected. His people have talked to Russians. Whoopty-do.

The problem would be if he and his associates plotted with Russia to fix the election some how.

[Zymologist]

Yeah they keep conveniently forgetting that communicating with Russians is not illegal. Since Trump does business all over the world, including Russia, it is to be expected. His people have talked to Russians. Whoopty-do.

The problem would be if he and his associates plotted with Russia to fix the election some how.

Well, clearly our election needs fixing.

[Mountain Man]

Well, clearly our election needs fixing.

I love how that statement can be taken multiple ways.

[Tassman]

The problem would be if he and his associates plotted with Russia to fix the election some how.

Well yes!!!

That's precisely what the fuss is about.

[Darth Executor]

Well yes!!!

That's precisely what the fuss is about.

except there is zero evidence of that. so far the only hard evidence we have of anybody fixing an election is the DNC fixing the democratic primary in Hitlery's favor, only for her to be utterly humiliated by some guy who picked up politics as a hobby 4 years ago.

[Tassman]

except there is zero evidence of that.

There is considerable circumstantial evidence (and growing daily) that Trump campaign aides had repeated contacts with Russian banks and oligarchs in an attempt to influence the elections in Trump's favour. Hence the ongoing FBI investigation.

so far the only hard evidence we have of anybody fixing an election is the DNC fixing the democratic primary in Hitlery's favor, only for her to be utterly humiliated by some guy who picked up politics as a hobby 4 years ago.

...and lost the popular vote by a considerable margin.

[Terraceth]

...and lost the popular vote by a considerable margin.

Which is like saying that a team that won a game of American Football, due to a high number of field goals, didn't score as many touchdowns as the other team. It's an interesting thing to note, but it's ultimately irrelevant as to the result.

Also, 2.1% is hardly "a considerable margin." It's smaller than the margin the last three elections were won by in terms of the popular vote.

[JimL]

Which is like saying that a team that won a game of American Football, due to a high number of field goals, didn't score as many touchdowns as the other team. It's an interesting thing to note, but it's ultimately irrelevant as to the result.

No, its actually like saying that a team that won a game of American football had less points than the team that lost, which of course is ridiculous.

Also, 2.1% is hardly "a considerable margin." It's smaller than the margin the last three elections were won by in terms of the popular vote.

Nearly 3 million votes is considerable enough. The problem is the electoral college. Trump only won the so called swing states by a few thousand votes, hardly a considerable margin. Besides that, we progressives can't help it if some 48% of the voting public are to clueless to pick up on the fact that they are being played, big league.

[Sparko]

Well yes!!!

That's precisely what the fuss is about.

where is the evidence for THAT? you keep crowing about possible evidence that Trumps people talked to Russians. that is not evidence he was working with Russia to fix the election.

[Sparko]

There is considerable circumstantial evidence (and growing daily) that Trump campaign aides had repeated contacts with Russian banks and oligarchs in an attempt to influence the elections in Trump's favour. Hence the ongoing FBI investigation.



...and lost the popular vote by a considerable margin.

except the isn't any evidence of "an attempt to influence the elections in Trump's favour."

you are just assuming that.

[JimL]

except the isn't any evidence of "an attempt to influence the elections in Trump's favour."

you are just assuming that.

No, U.S Intelligence, the FBI, CIA, have all publiclly stated that to be the case according to their investigations. When U.S. intelligence says it, then that is evidence, not assumption. Of course Russia and Putin deny it, and you are free to believe Putin and Russia over your own countries Intelligence agency if it suits you.