Trumpcare???

[Yttrium]

Either he is incredibly ignorant about health care and the political process or he was being dishonest.

I'm still going with delusional.

[Darth Executor]

With Obama, in an emotional victory speech on the night of winning the nomination, it was definitely over-the-top rhetoric. Unlike Trump, he had rhetorical flair, way too much flair and not enough experience. I remember cringing when I heard those words.

Trump is just as good a rhetorician, if not a better one. You don't like his rhetoric because it's not really aimed at your personality type (liberal, and thus submissive and passive-aggressive). Liberals love to be scolded by Professor Obama while conservatives find it insufferable. Likewise, Trump's promises of greatness rub submissive losers (IE: the average prog) who think any straight/white/Christian/male (the more of these apply the worse it gets) who wants to do anything good for themselves is the Next Hitler.

[robrecht]

Trump is just as good a rhetorician, if not a better one. You don't like his rhetoric because it's not really aimed at your personality type (liberal, and thus submissive and passive-aggressive). Liberals love to be scolded by Professor Obama while conservatives find it insufferable. Likewise, Trump's promises of greatness rub submissive losers (IE: the average prog) who think any straight/white/Christian/male (the more of these apply the worse it gets) who wants to do anything good for themselves is the Next Hitler.

What a load of crap. Glad to see you're trying to get your motor back.

[Mountain Man]

It's more Ryancare than Trumpcare. By Trump throwing his weight behind it, it deprives Ryan of the opportunity to point fingers. This failure has landed squarely on Ryan's and the GOP's shoulders, and there are already rumblings in Washington that it's time to find a new Speaker.

So the question is, was this Trump's plan all along?

[Darth Executor]

What a load of crap. Glad to see you're trying to get your motor back.

Thanks, I was hoping to at least get a rise out of you.

[shunyadragon]

Oh stop! It does him no good to have this bill fail, and they did have a bill.

. . . but it stripped health care for the poor and lower income, raised the premiums for the elderly and middle class, and gave the upper class tax windfall breaks.

Thank goodness the Royal Decree by His Highness Lord Trump, 'pass this or else,' failed, and we will have to live with 'or else,' and the rich will have to continue paying the tax.

Nonetheless I believe the existing health care system needs to be changed and reformed, but not to pad the wealthy at the expense of everyone else.

Would Congress be willing to share their health care plans with the poor and the middle class?