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I.e., Trump is moderate. Who knew???
Looks like Ryan will get fired, then v2.0 of Trumpcare incoming!!
Looks like Ryan will get fired, then v2.0 of Trumpcare incoming!!
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I've been telling you guys that for a long time now. Most of his positions are closer to mine than to those of conservatives. He's a moderate who's more than willing to negotiate. If it weren't for a few huge problems, he'd be an ideal choice for president for me.Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostMiddle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion. -
trump didn't have much to do with the crafting of this bill
most commentary on the right seems to think it was a plot to slit Ryan's throat"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.Comment
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Anyone who thought Trump was conservative was just doing wishful thinking. His only advantage was that he was not Hillary.Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?Comment
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Trumpcare failed because the Republicans thought Hillary would win. They didn't have a serious replacement plan ready to go even with 7 years to prepare it.Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony BloomComment
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If the next bill is a classic Tea Party extreme conservative bill it would not have the support of the moderate Republicans.
Humpty Trumpity Health Care Plan sat on the White House Wall
The Humpy Trumpity Health Care Plan had great Fall in the Congress Hall
All the King Trump's horses and all the King Trump's men
Could not put the Humpy Trumpity Health Care Plan back together again.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.Comment
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The Tea Party bill is a straight repeal of Obamacare.Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
No replacement.
Non-negotiable.Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.Comment
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. . . and worse, the cleaver for Medicare and Medicaid.Originally posted by Yttrium View PostGlendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.Comment
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Nevertheless, "The Buck Stops Here" as per the sign on President Truman's desk in his White House office.Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.Comment
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Obama successfully deflected his failures on Bush. So that's not true, regardless of what the sign says. Then again you sound precisely like the kind of simple mind that thinks something he read on a sign somewhere is automatically true.Originally posted by Tassman View Post
"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.Comment
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It's not just the 7 years they've been chanting "repeal and replace" for that they've had to come up with an actual replacement plan, they've had the last 30 years or more to come up with a plan of any kind for healthcare, and they just don't have one.Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
This is more than just super-embarrassing for them, it has exposed them as a party of losers and liars and they chant "repeal and replace" when they literally don't have, and have never had, a replacement. These are not serious people. These are not people who are interested in actually governing and passing laws. These are talking airheads who have no clue, who just know that they hate the democrats, and so are against Obamacare but are not for anything. Even the Republicans seem to acknowledge this in their post-Trumpcare press-conferences:
Paul Ryan: "We were a 10-year opposition party where being against things was easy to do. You just had to be against it."
GOP Rep Tom Rooney: "I’ve been in this job eight years, and I’m wracking my brain to think of one thing our party has done that’s been something positive, that’s been something other than stopping something else from happening....We need to start having victories as a party. And if we can’t, then it’s hard to justify why we should be back here.""I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert EinsteinComment
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It's easy to have plans when they just involve bribing people to vote for you/give you donations, which is the entire democratic party platform these days. Even Republicans can do that much. It just looksl ike failure because people expect better."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.Comment
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What failures? Obama inherited an epic mess from Bush — one of the largest budget deficits in U.S. history and he managed to reduce it, as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product, to 2.5 percent, the lowest it’s been since 2007.Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostObama successfully deflected his failures on Bush. So that's not true, regardless of what the sign says. Then again you sound precisely like the kind of simple mind that thinks something he read on a sign somewhere is automatically true.Last edited by Tassman; 03-25-2017, 11:52 PM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.Comment
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Trump isn't a moderate, Trump just has no clue. The health insurance bill he was going to sign into law was hardly moderate, nor do I believe Trump understood or cared what the hell was in the bill. He's neither conservative, liberal or moderate, he's an amoral empty vessell.Originally posted by Yttrium View PostComment
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Trump had nothing to do with it because he's a liar and idiot. "who ever knew health insurance could be so hard." This he says after promising to get it done immediately upon taking office, how easy to pass and how great it will be he said, it will take care of everybody at much less cost. How many times does this con man have to straight out lie to his supporters before they snap out of their trance and realize that he is all talk, no substance.Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostLast edited by JimL; 03-26-2017, 12:07 AM.Comment
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