The Cave of the Patriarchs and NT

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Hebron is given as a special gift to Caleb, who alone with Joshua maintained his loyalty to God.

Amazing!


Numbers 13:23

They came to the Valley of Eshkol and they cut a branch with a cluster of grapes. They carried it on a pole between two [people] and [they also took] some pomegranates and figs.

Rashi:

They carried it on a pole between two [people]: From the implication of what it says “they carried [in the plural] it on a pole” do I not know that it was [carried] by two? So what does “[between] two” tell us? [The answer is:] With two poles. How was it done? Eight of them took a cluster [of grapes], one took a fig and one took a pomegranate. Joshua and Caleb did not take anything, for the intention of the others was to present a slanderous report, [namely,] just as its fruit is extraordinary, so its people are extraordinary. If you wish to know how much one of them carried, go forth and learn from the stones they set up at Gilgal: Each man carried on his shoulder one stone [from the Jordan] and set it up at Gilgal. The Sages weighed them [and determined that] each stone weighed forty seah, and it is a fact that the load a person can carry on his shoulders is only a third of the weight of the load he can carry when others help him lift it. — [Sotah 34b]

a branch with a cluster of grapes = "z'morah v'eshkol anavim echad"

Weinreb ( what's in a name?) pointed out that the numerical of "anavim", 172, is the same as of "akev" = heel (Genesis 3:15). The snake taking away your freedom of choice, just by intoxination (from the wine), Wine, "pri hagefen", the fruit of the vine, being the third fruit of the promised land (mentioned in Deuteronomy 8:8) and so the fruit of the third day; day of the secret of the 153 large fishes.("tov" in Genesis 1:12 being the 153rd word in the Torah). Secret, Hebrew "sod" , having the same gematria as "yayin" = wine, viz. 70.
That's why the expression: "when wine goes in secret comes out" http://www.neveh.org/winston/parsha64/shemini.html.

John 15 is also about this ...

[mitzi]

Amazing!


Numbers 13:23

They came to the Valley of Eshkol and they cut a branch with a cluster of grapes. They carried it on a pole between two [people] and [they also took] some pomegranates and figs.

Rashi:

They carried it on a pole between two [people]: From the implication of what it says “they carried [in the plural] it on a pole” do I not know that it was [carried] by two? So what does “[between] two” tell us? [The answer is:] With two poles. How was it done? Eight of them took a cluster [of grapes], one took a fig and one took a pomegranate. Joshua and Caleb did not take anything, for the intention of the others was to present a slanderous report, [namely,] just as its fruit is extraordinary, so its people are extraordinary. If you wish to know how much one of them carried, go forth and learn from the stones they set up at Gilgal: Each man carried on his shoulder one stone [from the Jordan] and set it up at Gilgal. The Sages weighed them [and determined that] each stone weighed forty seah, and it is a fact that the load a person can carry on his shoulders is only a third of the weight of the load he can carry when others help him lift it. — [Sotah 34b]

a branch with a cluster of grapes = "z'morah v'eshkol anavim echad"

Weinreb ( what's in a name?) pointed out that the numerical of "anavim", 172, is the same as of "akev" = heel (Genesis 3:15). The snake taking away your freedom of choice, just by intoxination (from the wine), Wine, "pri hagefen", the fruit of the vine, being the third fruit of the promised land (mentioned in Deuteronomy 8:8) and so the fruit of the third day; day of the secret of the 153 large fishes.("tov" in Genesis 1:12 being the 153rd word in the Torah). Secret, Hebrew "sod" , having the same gematria as "yayin" = wine, viz. 70.
That's why the expression: "when wine goes in secret comes out" http://www.neveh.org/winston/parsha64/shemini.html.

John 15 is also about this ...

A question:

Why did G-d shorten the meraglim's (spies) journey?

13:25 - G-d knew the Jews would sin and be punished with a year's wandering for each day of the spies' mission. So He shortened the journey to soften the decree.

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Now read < Mark 13:20

"Unless the Lord had shortened those days, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect, whom He chose, He shortened the days."

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Amazing!


Numbers 13:23

They came to the Valley of Eshkol and they cut a branch with a cluster of grapes. They carried it on a pole between two [people] and [they also took] some pomegranates and figs.

Rashi:

They carried it on a pole between two [people]: From the implication of what it says “they carried [in the plural] it on a pole” do I not know that it was [carried] by two? So what does “[between] two” tell us? [The answer is:] With two poles. How was it done? Eight of them took a cluster [of grapes], one took a fig and one took a pomegranate. Joshua and Caleb did not take anything, for the intention of the others was to present a slanderous report, [namely,] just as its fruit is extraordinary, so its people are extraordinary. If you wish to know how much one of them carried, go forth and learn from the stones they set up at Gilgal: Each man carried on his shoulder one stone [from the Jordan] and set it up at Gilgal. The Sages weighed them [and determined that] each stone weighed forty seah, and it is a fact that the load a person can carry on his shoulders is only a third of the weight of the load he can carry when others help him lift it. — [Sotah 34b]

a branch with a cluster of grapes = "z'morah v'eshkol anavim echad"

Weinreb ( what's in a name?) pointed out that the numerical of "anavim", 172, is the same as of "akev" = heel (Genesis 3:15). The snake taking away your freedom of choice, just by intoxination (from the wine), Wine, "pri hagefen", the fruit of the vine, being the third fruit of the promised land (mentioned in Deuteronomy 8:8) and so the fruit of the third day; day of the secret of the 153 large fishes.("tov" in Genesis 1:12 being the 153rd word in the Torah). Secret, Hebrew "sod" , having the same gematria as "yayin" = wine, viz. 70.
That's why the expression: "when wine goes in secret comes out" http://www.neveh.org/winston/parsha64/shemini.html.

John 15 is also about this ...

Parshat Shelach has 119 verses, corresponding to the Hebrew
word "palat" which means "He rescued." This Parsha contains
the sin of our rejecting the Land of Israel - a sin which
caused G-d to decree that Israel be destroyed - yet, through
Moshe's prayers, G-d "rescued" us from this decree.

Rabbi Dovid Feinstein

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For the week ending 5 June 2010 / 22 Sivan 5770
Parshat Shlach

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Amazing!


Numbers 13:23

They came to the Valley of Eshkol and they cut a branch with a cluster of grapes. They carried it on a pole between two [people] and [they also took] some pomegranates and figs.

Rashi:

They carried it on a pole between two [people]: From the implication of what it says “they carried [in the plural] it on a pole” do I not know that it was [carried] by two? So what does “[between] two” tell us? [The answer is:] With two poles. How was it done? Eight of them took a cluster [of grapes], one took a fig and one took a pomegranate. Joshua and Caleb did not take anything, for the intention of the others was to present a slanderous report, [namely,] just as its fruit is extraordinary, so its people are extraordinary. If you wish to know how much one of them carried, go forth and learn from the stones they set up at Gilgal: Each man carried on his shoulder one stone [from the Jordan] and set it up at Gilgal. The Sages weighed them [and determined that] each stone weighed forty seah, and it is a fact that the load a person can carry on his shoulders is only a third of the weight of the load he can carry when others help him lift it. — [Sotah 34b]

a branch with a cluster of grapes = "z'morah v'eshkol anavim echad"

Weinreb ( what's in a name?) pointed out that the numerical of "anavim", 172, is the same as of "akev" = heel (Genesis 3:15). The snake taking away your freedom of choice, just by intoxination (from the wine), Wine, "pri hagefen", the fruit of the vine, being the third fruit of the promised land (mentioned in Deuteronomy 8:8) and so the fruit of the third day; day of the secret of the 153 large fishes.("tov" in Genesis 1:12 being the 153rd word in the Torah). Secret, Hebrew "sod" , having the same gematria as "yayin" = wine, viz. 70.
That's why the expression: "when wine goes in secret comes out" http://www.neveh.org/winston/parsha64/shemini.html.

John 15 is also about this ...

Connecting John 6:27 On him [Jesus] God the Father has placed his seal of approval.

God has put His seal on Jesus.

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with Joshua (Yehoshua) and Calev: Moshe changed Yehoshuas name from Hoshea by adding a yud at the beginning of his name. This made the first two letters spell one of G-ds names. (john 15:4Remain in me, and I will remain in you.)

"Two of the twelve spies that were sent did not become corrupt. Hoshea Bin Nun, who did not become corrupt, had the letter "yud" added to his name by Moshe Rabbeinu to become Yehoshua. Moshe added the letter "yud" to his name (which represents one of the names of G-d) to indicate that Hashem should come to his aid. Calev, representing the time of Yehudah, also did not become corrupt because he went to Hebron to the tomb of the Patriarchs and prayed to Hashem that he should not be ensnared in the plot of the other spies."

[sylvius]

Connecting John 6:27 On him [Jesus] God the Father has placed his seal of approval.

God has put His seal on Jesus.

cf Rashi on Genesis 1:27,

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_...showrashi/true

Man was made with a seal, like a coin, which is made by means of a die, which is called coin in Old French. And so Scripture states (Job 38:14): “It is changed like clay under the seal.” - [from Letters of Rabbi Akiva , second version; Mid. Ps. 139:5; Sanh. 38a]

Jesus being like the original Adam ...

Adam name declared as "ani domeh" = I am like him .

Name given by God!

So if Jesus was/is eatable, then God too?

Spiritual food , since God is spirit?

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cf Rashi on Genesis 1:27,

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_...showrashi/true

Man was made with a seal, like a coin, which is made by means of a die, which is called coin in Old French. And so Scripture states (Job 38:14): “It is changed like clay under the seal.” - [from Letters of Rabbi Akiva , second version; Mid. Ps. 139:5; Sanh. 38a]

Jesus being like the original Adam ...

Adam name declared as "ani domeh" = I am like him .

Name given by God!

So if Jesus was/is eatable, then God too?

Spiritual food , since God is spirit?

From: Sylvius

So if Jesus was/is eatable, then God too?

Spiritual food , since God is spirit?

Hi Sylvius:

Psalm 34:9 “ta‘amu u-re’u ki tov Hashem, taste and see that God is good.”

[sylvius]

Hi Sylvius:

Psalm 34:9 “ta‘amu u-re’u ki tov Hashem, taste and see that God is good.”

Rashi says:
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_...showrashi/true

Taste His word

Ha that's good!

The letters are eatable!

The letters forming the "guf" of the word.

That's why there are Alefbeis cookies!

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Rashi says:
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_...showrashi/true

Taste His word

Ha that's good!

The letters are eatable!

The letters forming the "guf" of the word.

That's why there are Alefbeis cookies!

or we could just say: The "Word made flesh" -
Psalm 34:9 “ta‘amu u-re’u ki tov Hashem, taste and see that God is good.” as in the flavor of the commandments,” as the verse states - if that be the case - then please direct the verse to John 1: 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.........

'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'" John 6:31-33 .....For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."..then to turn back to John 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. ...........

[sylvius]

or we could just say: The "Word made flesh" -
Psalm 34:9 “ta‘amu u-re’u ki tov Hashem, taste and see that God is good.” as in the flavor of the commandments,” as the verse states - if that be the case - then please direct the verse to John 1: 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.........

'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'" John 6:31-33 .....For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."..then to turn back to John 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. ...........

Yes that's more close than what Christianity made out of it...

"ta'am" can also mean: accent, intonation.

It is the "ta'am" that makes the music...

Rashi laid accent on it! Starting his Torah-commentary with a question:

ומה טעם פתח בבראשית, "mah ta'am patach biv'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]?" What is the taste (reason) that it opens with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"? (instead with: Exodus 12:1, which is the first commandment given to Israel).

Said Rabbi Isaac: It was not necessary to begin the Torah except from “This month is to you,” (Exod. 12:2) which is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded, (for the main purpose of the Torah is its commandments, and although several commandments are found in Genesis, e.g., circumcision and the prohibition of eating the thigh sinew, they could have been included together with the other commandments). Now for what reason did He commence with “In the beginning?” Because of [the verse] “The strength of His works He related to His people, to give them the inheritance of the nations” (Ps. 111:6). For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

"ta'am" returning in his comment on Genesis 1:11-12,

fruit trees: That the taste of the tree should be like the taste of the fruit. It [the earth] did not do so, however, but“the earth gave forth, etc., trees producing fruit,” but the trees themselves were not fruit. Therefore, when man was cursed because of his iniquity, it [the earth] too was punished for its iniquity (and was cursed-not in all editions). - [from Gen. Rabbah 5:9]

And of the "ets hadar" he said (on Leviticus 23:40)
עץ שטעם עצו ופריו שוה
"ets sheta'am etso ufiryo sheveh"
tree of which the taste of its wood is the same as of its fruit

the fruit of the hadar tree: [Scripture could have simply said, “ hadar fruit.” Since it adds the word “tree,” next to “fruit,” it teaches us that it is] a tree whose wood has the same taste as its fruit. — [Sukkah 35a] [Note that, according to Ramban, the fruit known in Aramaic as “ethrog,” is known in Hebrew as “ hadar.”

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Yes that's more close than what Christianity made out of it...

"ta'am" can also mean: accent, intonation.

It is the "ta'am" that makes the music...

Rashi laid accent on it! Starting his Torah-commentary with a question:

ומה טעם פתח בבראשית, "mah ta'am patach biv'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]?" What is the taste (reason) that it opens with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"? (instead with: Exodus 12:1, which is the first commandment given to Israel).

Said Rabbi Isaac: It was not necessary to begin the Torah except from “This month is to you,” (Exod. 12:2) which is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded, (for the main purpose of the Torah is its commandments, and although several commandments are found in Genesis, e.g., circumcision and the prohibition of eating the thigh sinew, they could have been included together with the other commandments). Now for what reason did He commence with “In the beginning?” Because of [the verse] “The strength of His works He related to His people, to give them the inheritance of the nations” (Ps. 111:6). For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

"ta'am" returning in his comment on Genesis 1:11-12,

fruit trees: That the taste of the tree should be like the taste of the fruit. It [the earth] did not do so, however, but“the earth gave forth, etc., trees producing fruit,” but the trees themselves were not fruit. Therefore, when man was cursed because of his iniquity, it [the earth] too was punished for its iniquity (and was cursed-not in all editions). - [from Gen. Rabbah 5:9]

And of the "ets hadar" he said (on Leviticus 23:40)
עץ שטעם עצו ופריו שוה
"ets sheta'am etso ufiryo sheveh"
tree of which the taste of its wood is the same as of its fruit

the fruit of the hadar tree: [Scripture could have simply said, “ hadar fruit.” Since it adds the word “tree,” next to “fruit,” it teaches us that it is] a tree whose wood has the same taste as its fruit. — [Sukkah 35a] [Note that, according to Ramban, the fruit known in Aramaic as “ethrog,” is known in Hebrew as “ hadar.”

ומה טעם פתח בבראשית, "mah ta'am patach biv'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]?" What is the taste (reason) that it opens with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"? (instead with: Exodus 12:1, which is the first commandment given to Israel).

Why it starts with the B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] - because God blessed them (both Adam & Eve), and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the sky and over all the beasts that tread upon the earth. "

This was the first commandment to man......to be fruitful.....So that's why it starts with B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color].
(original question: What is the taste (reason) that it opens with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"?)


As well as, the first commandment to nature (as to with animals (sea mammals, as opposed to a fish, bird, etc. ) each category of living organisms comprising all animals >>>>there are different categories/species within each 'specific' kingdom', as well as, within the plants/vegetation, plants that did not bare fruit verses plants that did.)


Example:

Plants:

11. And God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, seed yielding herbs and fruit trees producing fruit according to its kind in which its seed is found, on the earth," and it was so.

3. And it was evening, and it was morning, a third day.


Sun and the Moon:

God created the lesser and the greater lights (The sun and the moon) for the vegetation to grow, Also - to know the changing of the times and seasons - Psalm 104: 19 The moon marks off the seasons, and the sun knows when to go down. 20 You bring darkness, it becomes night, and all the beasts of the forest prowl.

God saw that it was good - 19. And it was evening, and it was morning, a fourth day.

“marine mammal” (As Genesis notes: great sea monsters, and every living creature that crawls, with which the waters swarmed) and then every winged fowl, according to its kind)


Genesis 1:22. And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters of the seas, and let the fowl multiply upon the earth."

***On this category: God instructs them to be fruitful and multiply*****

3. And it was evening, and it was morning, a fifth day


Nature: Animal (by land) mammals -

God said "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kind, cattle and creeping things and the beasts of the earth according to their kind," and it was so."

****At this category: God does not instruct them to be fruitful and multiply*****

But God does instruct "Man and Woman" to be fruitful and multiply - and man was created on the 6th day -

27. And God created man in His image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28. And God blessed them

31. And God saw all that He had made, and behold it was very good, and it was evening and it was morning, the sixth day.

*********There are both positive and negative Mitzvos/Mitzvot in the story of creation- At the time of creation God had commanded or sent many degrees to both the heavens and the earth. This would reference to Isaiah 55:11, “so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.”

The Negative starts with Genesis 3:14 and doesn't end until Genesis 3:19, A negative mitzvah is also known as a sin.

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As noted in Isaiah 2:3 "the law went forth".....The word of power went forth, much like creation. In John 8:42, "I proceed forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but "He" sent me." Jesus is the anointed flesh and bones which God brought forth to life by His Holy Spirit. But the argument is about whether Jesus was "part of " or "created by"...Going back over John 1:1-5, the Word (the law – Torah) was spoken at the beginning of creation, utterances – or commands, these are the commands - God spoke:

Ge 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
Ge 1:6 Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”
Ge 1:9 Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so.
Ge 1:11 Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit after their kind, with seed in them, on the earth”; and it was so.
Ge 1:14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years;
Ge 1:20 Then God said, “Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.”
Ge 1:24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind”; and it was so.
Ge 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

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Ge 1:5 And God called the light day
Ge 1:5 And the darkness He called night.
Ge 1:8 And God called the expanse heaven.
Ge 1:10 And God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas.
Ge 1:10 And the gathering of the waters He called seas.

These verbal commands of God are called “decrees” or “counsels,” made all the events of nature and history to be the effects of God’s Words. Adam’s first experience was that on hearing the Word of God (Gen. 1:28ff.) and the first command was given to Adam (mankind) in Genesis 2:16. Adam's life Genesis 26:5, Deuteronomy 11:1, Joshua 22:2-3, 1 Kings 2:2-4 and also death depended upon his obedience to that Word (Gen. 2:17). After the fall, Adam’s only hope was that God would fulfill the promise of his Word (Gen. 3:15) – to redeem man.............
.......the question being:..........and Jesus?........So was Jesus Christ Created - or did He Proceed Forth? (my answer being: NO! as to "not" being created, but He proceeded forth as being "God's Word" made flesh)
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Well anyway, to answer your question (again) on the reasons/reason "Why".....What is the taste (reason) that it opens with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"?

...........the second commandment was 26. And God said, "and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the sky and over all the beasts that tread upon the earth. "

To give you another answer: 29. And God said, "Behold, I have given you every seed bearing herb, which is upon the surface of the entire earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; it will be yours for food.

Man was to fill the earth (be fruitful and multiply -1st command ) and subdue it (being the 2nd command) .
(Genesis - Berei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]) is where the first commandment was made to man.......Then we continue with the Tower of Babel and then to Noah and the flood, after the sin in the garden.....

Sorry about the correction at the end....

[sylvius]

Why it starts with the B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] - because God blessed them (both Adam & Eve), and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the sky and over all the beasts that tread upon the earth. "

This was the first commandment to man......to be fruitful.....So that's why it starts with B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color].
(original question: What is the taste (reason) that it opens with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"?)


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The point was:

“This month is to you,” ( Exod. 12:2) is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded,

It starts with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"

; For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

That is the taste of it!

Bitter taste?

The olive is said to be bitter.

Rashi on Genesis 8:11,

it had plucked: on olive leaf in its mouth: Heb. טָרָף,“he plucked.” The Midrash Aggadah explains it טָרָף as an expression of food, and interprets בְּפִיהָ as an expression of speech. It [the dove] said: Let my food be as bitter as an olive in the hands of the Holy One, blessed be He, and not as sweet as honey in the hands of flesh and blood. — [Sanh. 108b] \b 12\b0

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The point was:

“This month is to you,” ( Exod. 12:2) is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded,

It starts with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"

; For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

That is the taste of it!

Bitter taste?

The olive is said to be bitter.

Rashi on Genesis 8:11,

it had plucked: on olive leaf in its mouth: Heb. טָרָף,“he plucked.” The Midrash Aggadah explains it טָרָף as an expression of food, and interprets בְּפִיהָ as an expression of speech. It [the dove] said: Let my food be as bitter as an olive in the hands of the Holy One, blessed be He, and not as sweet as honey in the hands of flesh and blood. — [Sanh. 108b] \b 12\b0

Shabbat, September 4, 2010
25 Elul, 5770 1st day of Creation.....

WORD OF THE MONTH

(To highlight this part in the article: (....I'm taking this part out of sequence in the article) "Before" (can't really use this word) B'REI[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color], there was nothing besides G-d. Nothing. And B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color], He created something from nothing - YEISH MEI'AYIN. Not just something, but everything. All matter, all energy, all time... EVERYTHING. )

B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] STATS
First of the 54 sedras; first of 12 sedras in B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]
Written on 241 lines in a Sefer Torah, ranks 9th
23 Parshiyot; 10 open, 13 closed, ranks 6th
146 p'sukim - ranks 8th (5th in B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]), same as Mikeitz; but Miketz is longer in lines, words, letters
1931 words - ranks 8th (5th in B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color])
7235 letters - ranks 11th (5th in B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color])

MITZVOT
One (positive) mitzva in B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] (Be fruitful...)



Kohen - First Aliya - 34 p'sukim - 1:1-2:3
This Aliya contains the first account of Creation.
[P>1:1 (5)] The first parsha contains the "summary" statement of Creation (or the first phase of Creation - see Lead Tidbit) and the account of Day One.

SDT: Baal HaTurim points out that the Gimatriya of B'REI[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] BARA is 1116, as is the numeric value of the phrase: B'ROSH HASHANA NIV'RA - on RH it (the world) was created. Furthermore, the letters of B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] rearrange to spell ALEF B'TISHREI, the first of the month of Tishrei (or B'ALEF TISHREI - on the first of Tishrei - same thing), "confirming" the opinion that the world was created in Tishrei (R. Eliezer), rather than in Nissan, as the other opinion holds (R. Yehoshua). If we could prove things with Gimatriyas and anagrams, then R. Eliezer would "win" the dispute, but as it is, the dispute as to when the world was created remains a dispute - and halachically, it leans towards Nissan.(Passover to Passover - When Does The Jewish Year Begin? - "If someone promised to bring a sacrifice or an object to the Temple in Jerusalem within the year, the year was calculated from Pesach/Passover to Pesach/Passover")

"In the beginning, G-d created the Heavens and the Earth. And the Earth..."

Did that happen on day 1 of Creation? Or is something before Day 1 being described?

Here is one possible answer. The first two p'sukim of B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] describe the totally, exclusively Divine aspect of Creation of Something from Nothing - YEISH MEI'AYIN. Before "B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]", perhaps nothing existed - except G-d. With the Divine Command of B'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color], everything that now exists came into existence for the first time. All matter, all energy, thoughts, concepts, time - everything (sort of like a BIG BANG!). According to this point of view, SHAMAYIM and ARETZ mean everything in the universe.
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“This month is to you,” ( Exod. 12:2) is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded,

It starts with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"

[sylvius]

It starts with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"

question was:

Why it starts with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"?
"mah ta'am patach biv'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"?

And not with: "hachodesh hazeh lachem rosh chadashim" (Exodus 12:2)
This renewal shall be to you the head of the months.

I think Rashi opens his commentary with this as a sneer to Christianity with their "b'rit hachadasha"...

For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

[mitzi]

The point was:

“This month is to you,” ( Exod. 12:2) is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded,

It starts with "b'rei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]"

; For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

That is the taste of it!

Bitter taste?

The olive is said to be bitter.

Rashi on Genesis 8:11,

it had plucked: on olive leaf in its mouth: Heb. טָרָף,“he plucked.” The Midrash Aggadah explains it טָרָף as an expression of food, and interprets בְּפִיהָ as an expression of speech. It [the dove] said: Let my food be as bitter as an olive in the hands of the Holy One, blessed be He, and not as sweet as honey in the hands of flesh and blood. — [Sanh. 108b] \b 12\b0

Rosh Hashanah meals and symbolic foods -

SYMBOLISM OF SEVEN SPECIES


The seven species of food symbolize the close relationship between the Jewish People and the Land of Israel.

* Rimon Season (pomegranate)—September/October—Rosh HaShanah/Yom Kippur/Sukkot
* Tamar Season (date/honey)—September/October—Rosh HaShanah/Sukkot
* Zayit Season (olive)—November/December—Hanukkah
* Te’ena Season (fig)—January/February—Tu B’Shevat

* Gefen Season (vine, grape)—March—Purim
* Wheat and Barley Season—April/May/June—Passover/Shavuot


http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art43906.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DriedfruitS.jpg
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Celebrating Rosh Hashanah
"It’s a custom to eat sweet foods on Rosh Hashanah, to represent the sweetness that we wish for in the coming year. The apple and honey are the prime example of this: before eating the apple and honey, Jews make a blessing for a sweet new year.
Conversely, it’s customary to avoid sour or bitter foods. All this is connected with the idea that everything we do, eat, or say during Rosh Hashanah will have an impact on the rest of the year."

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Significance of Yom Kippur

Before and during Yom Kippur, Jews wish one another a “gmar chatima tova”—which is a way of wishing one another a good destiny for the coming year. This stems from the belief that on Yom Kippur, God seals the destinies of all people and nations in the world.

The intensity of prayer on Yom Kippur is therefore viewed as a gift to the people: it’s a valuable opportunity to change their fates for the good

[sylvius]

* Tamar Season (date/honey)—September/October—Rosh HaShanah/Sukkot
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"It’s a custom to eat sweet foods on Rosh Hashanah, to represent the sweetness that we wish for in the coming year. The apple and honey are the prime example of this: before eating the apple and honey, Jews make a blessing for a sweet new year.

Tamar = date(palm)

The honey , "d'vash", comes form the date.

Date is in Greek "phoinix" - which is also the name of the mythical bird that rejuvenates every millennium

John 12:13 palm branches - alluding to the new year/new millennium/new age?