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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostOn what in particular do you base this opinion?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostHow can you pray while asleep? Or pooping?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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The idea of reading a devotional book is extra-biblical at best, unbiblical at worst. The idea of praying frequently and reading the Bible frequently are both very biblical.
Deuteronomy 17:18-19
And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites: and it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the Lord his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them[.]
I agree that "without ceasing" means frequently, not continuously.
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostI'm going to play devil's advocate a little here and say that there is no biblical support for the practice of setting aside some time early in the morning to pray, read your Bible and read a devotional text ('Daily Bread', 'Manna' or whatever). A 'daily devotion' or a 'quiet time'. Unbiblical. It's a guilt trip, a burden laid on people.
Give me your best case for why Christians should have daily devotions.
Practically speaking, this is one of those things that can easily slip from a helpful discipline to either a merit badge or a burdensome guilt-trip.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIn the same sense that the Bible never talks about the Bible (as non-Protestants love to point out), yes. But it's worth nothing that Jesus took quiet time on his own.
A: Matthew 14:13 Jesus goes to a deserted place after hearing of John the Baptist's execution.
B: Mark 1:35 Parallel with Luke 4:42
C: Mark 6:45-46 After feeding the five thousand, Jesus goes up a mountain to pray. Parallel with Matthew 14:23
D: Mark 14:32-34 In the garden of Gethsemane
E: Luke 5:16
F: Luke 6:12 Prior to calling the 12 disciples
G: Luke 9:18 Probably a parallel to Mark 6:45-46 Jesus was 'praying alone' with His disciples present.
H: John 6:15 Probably a parallel to Mark 6:45-46
Counting C, G and H as one, that's only six different references to Jesus having anything like a 'quiet time'.
A and D are Jesus seeking communion with the Father in a time of mental and spiritual crisis.
F is Jesus seeking the Father's advice in choosing the inner circle of disciples.
C is Jesus seeking a 'spiritual recharge' after a busy time of service, B is arguably the same.
We're left with only Luke 5:16 as something that might be akin to our present practice of Daily devotions.
That said, I'm not against the practice, but I do feel that it's extra biblical rather than something mandated. Clearly Jesus expected us to pray alone with God on a regular basis, and we are enjoined to read and study the Scriptures....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI take your 'daily devotion' and raise you 'praying 24 hours a day.'
1 Thes 5:17 Pray without ceasing....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostEven introverts spend time with those they love.
Do you love God? Then spend some time with Him....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostThe idea of reading a devotional book is extra-biblical at best, unbiblical at worst. The idea of praying frequently and reading the Bible frequently are both very biblical.
Deuteronomy 17:18-19
And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites: and it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the Lord his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them[.]
I agree that "without ceasing" means frequently, not continuously.
11 I have hidden Your Word in my heart, so that I might not sin against You.*12* Blessed are You, O Jehovah; teach me Your Precepts.*13* With my lips I have declared all the judgments of Your mouth.*14* I have rejoiced in the way of Your testimonies, as much as in all riches.*15* I will think on Your Commandments and have respect to Your ways.*16* I will delight myself in Your Precepts; I will not forget Your Word.*...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostIt is extra-Biblical.
Practically speaking, this is one of those things that can easily slip from a helpful discipline to either a merit badge or a burdensome guilt-trip.
I have no case for either "should" or "should not."...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostJust personal belief. I am unable to do more than maintain an attitude of prayer while concentrating on anything else (even that is not even close to 24 hours a day, or even all my waking hours).Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostI spend all day every day with God.
If I don't have a specific devotional time, am I not spending time with God? Or am I doing it wrong?Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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