Why do Republicans have so many sex scandals?

[Tassman]

derp. THAT was your whole point, remember Tassy? That despite being the self-proclaimed promoter of conservative MORAL VALUES they allow people like O'reilly to get away with sexual harassment?

Yet again, you shoot the legs out from under your own argument. Nice.

You are your own worst enemy.

Sigh!

The whole point is that “Conservative values” generally incorporate Conservative moral values, namely “the belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, using cultural norms and the power of the state”....except obviously among the hypocrites at Fox News.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...vative/252099/

[Roy]

You jumped in to defend Sea's comment about the "traditional values"...

No, I jumped in to point out that espousing centuries old values - which MM was doing because he referred to the views of the founding fathers - is one definition of "conservative".

- which was obviously you agreeing with his statement,.../

That's your assumption. I have not said that I agree with Sea's statement.

... and said that the constitution was conservative and traditional because it was old.

No, espousing the original constitution is conservative.

MG said that just because it is old doesn't make it conservative, you argued that it did by definition.

No, the constitution isn't conservative because it is old. Supporting the constitution as reflecting the founding fathers views is conservative.

I know you like to nitpick, but it was obvious to everyone reading. Then when called on it, you back-pedalled. It's ok, I understand.

You don't. You are making wrong assumptions.

Can we stop now?

[Sparko]

Sigh!

The whole point is that “Conservative values” generally incorporate Conservative moral values, namely “the belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, using cultural norms and the power of the state”....except obviously among the hypocrites at Fox News.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...vative/252099/

sigh. trying to move the goal posts again?

We can all READ what you wrote Tassy! Derp. A bit hard to try to change that now, doncha think?

[Tassman]

sigh. trying to move the goal posts again?

Only if you think that "Conservative values" does not include Conservative moral values". I would have thought they did. But the likes of you seem to think that "Conservative values" has nothing to do with morality. Obviously those at Fox News agree with you, judging by the immorality they condoned.

[Meh Gerbil]

Only if you think that "Conservative values" does not include Conservative moral values". I would have thought they did. But the likes of you seem to think that "Conservative values" has nothing to do with morality. Obviously those at Fox News agree with you, judging by the immorality they condoned.

Nobody here goes to Fox news to either learn or measure moral or conservative values.
It is a news outlet, not the freakin' pope.

Furthermore, every single conservative here would support punishment for O'Reilly if he's guilty of a crime.
Additionally, every single conservative here would support punishment for Fox News if they behaved in an illegal manner.

Fox news can go die in a fire.
Nobody cares, Tassman - your parading around this weird 'moral Fox news' thing is getting old.

[Cow Poke]

We can all READ what you wrote Tassy! Derp. A bit hard to try to change that now, doncha think?

It matters not, he no shame.

[Tassman]

Nobody here goes to Fox news to either learn or measure moral or conservative values.
It is a news outlet, not the freakin' pope.

Furthermore, every single conservative here would support punishment for O'Reilly if he's guilty of a crime.
Additionally, every single conservative here would support punishment for Fox News if they behaved in an illegal manner.

Fox news can go die in a fire.
Nobody cares, Tassman - your parading around this weird 'moral Fox news' thing is getting old.

Well, one can understand your embarrassment that the primary Conservative news outlet in the US has been exposed as a hotbed of immorality. So much for Conservative values.

[Meh Gerbil]

Well, one can understand your embarrassment that the primary Conservative news outlet in the US has been exposed as a hotbed of immorality. So much for Conservative values.

I have value irregardless of your claims.
What kind of sick person gets on the internet and tries to get people to suicide?
You need help, Tassman, serious help.

[Cow Poke]

Well, one can understand your embarrassment that the primary Conservative news outlet in the US has been exposed as a hotbed of immorality.

So, you're abandoning your asinine "self proclaimed" assertion?

[rogue06]

Well, one can understand your embarrassment that the primary Conservative news outlet in the US has been exposed as a hotbed of immorality. So much for Conservative values.

You mean that they had fallible human beings there who weren't perfect? Color me shocked, shocked I say

OTOH, leftists will never be embarrassed that the primary liberal news outlet, the New York Times, has been engaging in sex, age and race discrimination all while pontificating against such things because they no longer can be embarrassed about any sort of behavior any more.

[Tassman]

You mean that they had fallible human beings there who weren't perfect? Color me shocked, shocked I say

The fallibility is not the problem, it's the hypocrisy...as per other bastions of Conservative values, e.g. the Duggars.

[Starlight]

The fallibility is not the problem, it's the hypocrisy...as per other bastions of Conservative values, e.g. the Duggars.

It seems like when liberals do bad things, they keep quiet about it and/or say "it's a free world, everyone can do as they please", whereas when conservatives do bad things, they go all moralistic and preachy to tell others not to do bad things. It seems like when they have no understanding how to deal with their own problems they tend to go on the offensive and attack problems in others.

A currently topical example of that is Trump's favorite dictator of the day, Duterte, who has taken his personal struggles with drug addictions out on his own people, encouraging mass-murder of drug users.

We've seen the same thing when the most outspoken opponents of homosexuality have been, time after time, found to be enjoying gay sex themselves.

Something seems broken in the brains of many conservatives that seems to mean when they can't cope with their own perceived 'sin' and are struggling against those inner demons, then they get all moralistic and preachy and start lashing out at the perceived sins of others. Bill O'Reilly is merely the latest such example of a really terrible person, who spent almost every day moralizing at other people.

[Meh Gerbil]

It seems like when liberals do bad things, they keep quiet about it and/or say "it's a free world, everyone can do as they please", whereas when conservatives do bad things, they go all moralistic and preachy to tell others not to do bad things. It seems like when they have no understanding how to deal with their own problems they tend to go on the offensive and attack problems in others.

A currently topical example of that is Trump's favorite dictator of the day, Duterte, who has taken his personal struggles with drug addictions out on his own people, encouraging mass-murder of drug users.

We've seen the same thing when the most outspoken opponents of homosexuality have been, time after time, found to be enjoying gay sex themselves.

Something seems broken in the brains of many conservatives that seems to mean when they can't cope with their own perceived 'sin' and are struggling against those inner demons, then they get all moralistic and preachy and start lashing out at the perceived sins of others. Bill O'Reilly is merely the latest such example of a really terrible person, who spent almost every day moralizing at other people.

That happens quite frequently among the loudest and most brash opponents but it doesn't account for the millions who oppose an activity and do not participate in it at all. I think pulling 1/2 dozen hypocrites out of the wood pile and pretending there is some kind of rule established is weak. For example, homosexuals are always claiming they're not pedophiles so if I produce examples of 1/2 dozen homosexuals who have claimed this only to have kiddie-porn found on their computers will I have made a solid point in your estimation?

Certainly not.

But yes, quite often as a general rule, the sin people are loudest about can often be a clue as to their own struggles.

[Mountain Man]

It matters not, he no shame.

Me agrees.

[Cow Poke]

The fallibility is not the problem, it's the hypocrisy...as per other bastions of Conservative values, e.g. the Duggars.

Because you're just another low information pinko commie liberal, you have no grasp whatsoever of the principles of free enterprise. Ailes didn't launch Fox News because he was a missionary of moral principles, but because he saw an opportunity to MAKE MONEY.

Get a job!