Why do Republicans have so many sex scandals?

[Tassman]

This thread is quite amazing in terms of the level of denial the conservative posters have been in with regards to that basic reality. Your obviously-true statements are being denied by them at length and their goalpost moving skills are being used to their max.

A conclusion I came to when I was a Christian studying theology and Christian history is that you want to look at people's actions before believing their words. There were plenty of theologians who talked a good theological game in between or after doing horrible things... (Athanasius, Augustine, Luther, Calvin etc) usually they 'won' any theological disputes and controversies they were engaged in because they were more willing than their opponents to get their hands dirty with the bribes and the corruption and the political force to persecute their opponents and thus 'win'. You've got to ask yourself "do I want to model my beliefs after those held by such a person?" The horrendous immoral conduct of US conservatives across the board, and Faux News in particular, should be a warning to anyone not to want a bar of what those people are selling.

Not just the historical figures you mentioned, but the grand tradition of Conservative hypocrisy continues into the modern era with the likes of the Fox reprobates and the quiverfull of Duggars. But my personal favourite...for sheer, breathtaking hypocrisy...is Ted Haggard preaching against the filth of homosexuality whilst romping with money-boys.

There’s some more here:

http://www.alternet.org/story/155253...sex_hypocrites

[Meh Gerbil]

A conclusion I came to when I was a Christian studying theology and Christian history is that you want to look at people's actions before believing their words.

I would hope that would be the standard for anyone seeking truth.

[Meh Gerbil]

Anything to avoid facing the issue that Conservatism of the type found at Fox, was synonymous with greed and sexual exploitation of Trumpian proportions.

I should think you'd realize that a business like Fox News is going to wrap itself in whatever ideology it can in order to feed itself to the masses.
I no more believe Fox News is conservative than I believe Hillary Clinton really cares about women.

People on the quest for power/money/fame are going to do whatever they must in order to win general approval.
In the end it is that power/money/fame that is their religion, not conservatism or liberalism.

If the people on this forum insist on making it a conservative vs. liberal thing then the people on this forum will never understand the real religion of these people and will be trapped into supporting candidates that will sell them out at the first opportunity. With that we'll end up with governments just like what we've had now and for the past 40 years.

I'd rather have an honest and transparent liberal in office than a lying conservative.
If you wouldn't rather have an honest conservative in office over a lying liberal than you're foolish.

[Starlight]

Not just the historical figures you mentioned, but the grand tradition of Conservative hypocrisy continues into the modern era with the likes of the Fox reprobates and the quiverfull of Duggars. But my personal favourite...for sheer, breathtaking hypocrisy...is Ted Haggard preaching against the filth of homosexuality whilst romping with money-boys.

There’s some more here:

http://www.alternet.org/story/155253...sex_hypocrites

Some of my favorites are "porno Pete" LaBarbera who in between ranting about the evils of homosexuality, spends his time watching his large pile of gay porn DVDs and attending gay fetish events... for "research"; and Pat blood-diamonds Robertson who in between blaming abortion, pagans and teh gayz for 9/11 and hurricane Katrina manages to make plenty of doomsday predictions that fail to happen and team up with African dictators to commit charity fraud and funnel donated money to diamond-mining for his own profit.

[Meh Gerbil]

The average liberal woman:

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Here is a picture of Lady Republicans For Trump:

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Any questions?

[One Bad Pig]

A conclusion I came to when I was a Christian studying theology and Christian history is that you want to look at people's actions before believing their words.

Good idea.

There were plenty of theologians who talked a good theological game in between or after doing horrible things... (Athanasius, Augustine, Luther, Calvin etc) usually they 'won' any theological disputes and controversies they were engaged in because they were more willing than their opponents to get their hands dirty with the bribes and the corruption and the political force to persecute their opponents and thus 'win'. You've got to ask yourself "do I want to model my beliefs after those held by such a person?"

It should be obvious from the manifestly false accusations brought against Athanasius that any accusations from the same quarters should be taken with a large grain of salt. Of course, if you're determining your beliefs based on the actions of a few, you're in no position to cast stones.

The horrendous immoral conduct of US conservatives across the board, and Faux News in particular, should be a warning to anyone not to want a bar of what those people are selling.

Those who have no compunction about taking innocent lives for convenience have no room to talk.

[Mountain Man]

...I was a Christian studying theology and Christian history...

This statement is hilarious in light of your profound ignorance.

[Terraceth]

A conclusion I came to when I was a Christian studying theology and Christian history is that you want to look at people's actions before believing their words. There were plenty of theologians who talked a good theological game in between or after doing horrible things... (Athanasius, Augustine, Luther, Calvin etc)

And these horrible things were...?

I'm assuming with John Calvin you're referring to Michael Servetus, and it's true Luther got really weird in his later years, especially in regards to the Jews, but that was well after most of his major writings. But I'm unsure what "horrible things" you are referring to with Athanasius or Augustine. Maybe with Augustine you're referring to his lustfulness when he was younger, but I believe that was before he converted (and afterwards he was quite critical of his previous acts), so it seems downright goofy to hold that against him.

usually they 'won' any theological disputes and controversies they were engaged in because they were more willing than their opponents to get their hands dirty with the bribes and the corruption and the political force to persecute their opponents and thus 'win'.

Examples of usage of bribery?

[Tassman]

This statement is hilarious in light of your profound ignorance.

Ah, the unconscious wit of MM.

[Tassman]

Some of my favorites are "porno Pete" LaBarbera who in between ranting about the evils of homosexuality, spends his time watching his large pile of gay porn DVDs and attending gay fetish events... for "research"; and Pat blood-diamonds Robertson who in between blaming abortion, pagans and teh gayz for 9/11 and hurricane Katrina manages to make plenty of doomsday predictions that fail to happen and team up with African dictators to commit charity fraud and funnel donated money to diamond-mining for his own profit.

Truly amazing. But you've gotta love Kim! She might be a slut, but she's a HETEROSEXUAL slut so that's OK.

[Tassman]

The average liberal woman:

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Here is a picture of Lady Republicans For Trump:

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Any questions?

Such a contrast. The difference is between an intelligent, educated woman and Trumpian bimbo's.

[Tassman]

I should think you'd realize that a business like Fox News is going to wrap itself in whatever ideology it can in order to feed itself to the masses.
I no more believe Fox News is conservative than I believe Hillary Clinton really cares about women.

People on the quest for power/money/fame are going to do whatever they must in order to win general approval.
In the end it is that power/money/fame that is their religion, not conservatism or liberalism.

If the people on this forum insist on making it a conservative vs. liberal thing then the people on this forum will never understand the real religion of these people and will be trapped into supporting candidates that will sell them out at the first opportunity. With that we'll end up with governments just like what we've had now and for the past 40 years.

I'd rather have an honest and transparent liberal in office than a lying conservative.
If you wouldn't rather have an honest conservative in office over a lying liberal than you're foolish.

I would like to think we have a choice between an honest Conservative and an honest Liberal. Is that really too much to hope for?

[Meh Gerbil]

I would like to think we have a choice between an honest Conservative and an honest Liberal. Is that really too much to hope for?

I've never seen it in the USA.
Maybe things are better in Australia.

[Tassman]

I've never seen it in the USA.
Maybe things are better in Australia.

It goes without saying that Australian politics are perfect.

Seriously, I think US politics are relatively honest...if calculating and devious. The possible exception is Trump and his cohorts; he seems to have no problem telling outright, obvious lies to get what he wants.

[Mountain Man]

And these horrible things were...?

Don't bother. He's just desperately clinging to the ad hominem fallacy. The Bible never promised perfect Christians, only a perfect savior.