Does Religion Make You Stupid?

[Apologiaphoenix]

The OBP and Jedidiah idiot band is here to demonstrate for you.

Except they didn't. They pointed out no one here argues like that. They didn't argue the way you said.

In fact, you kind of demonstrated their point.

[TheWall]

Dear the wall, proof reading is your friend. try it.

Yep. I fixed it.

[Jedidiah]

The OBP and Jedidiah idiot band is here to demonstrate for you.

Would you start a thread, in Apologetics perhaps, explaining what you think Christianity actually is, and is all about? Let's see in real life what you know and what you do not know. I would love to take part in a thread like that.

[Starlight]

I have, however, seen you claim repeatedly that you're a knowledgeable expert regarding Christianity, and then proceed by your words to prove that you haven't a clue.

As the Pig pointed out your claim to be knowledgeable of Christianity has been repeatedly demonstrated (by you) to be false.

I'm baffled by the way this utterly delusional talking point keeps being repeated over and over again by TWeb's most delusional morons as if it would make it true. Is it too much to ask for a couple of examples of what it's actually based on? I have no clue what it was that I said or did that is being alleged to show I have don't have the knowledge that I do... somehow the "you know nothing!" crowd here doesn't ever seem to feel the need to actually mention any specific examples when they make these bizarre claims.

[Adrift]

I'm baffled by the way this utterly delusional talking point keeps being repeated over and over again by TWeb's most delusional morons as if it would make it true. Is it too much to ask for a couple of examples of what it's actually based on? I have no clue what it was that I said or did that is being alleged to show I have don't have the knowledge that I do... somehow the "you know nothing!" crowd here doesn't ever seem to feel the need to actually mention any specific examples when they make these bizarre claims.

I mention it just about every single time you post on the Bible. I usually start off with something like "As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about", because it's obvious to everyone that you don't; I then completely dismantle whatever nonsense you're blathering on about, and demonstrate how your views are either entirely of your own invention (which you sometimes even admit to!), complete misinterpretations of actual mainstream material, or so fringe that you might as well have made the views up yourself. We've all indicated on many MANY occasions that the views that you professed to have had when you thought of yourself as a great Christian thinker were far from normative for orthodox Christianity. You've expressed equally non-normative views coming from the church you say you once attended. How many of those views were actually coming from that church, or how many you simply misinterpreted or invented we'll probably never know, but every indication points to the fact that it was basically a cult of some sort, since they were so radically divorced from anything you'll find in orthodoxy. And remember, this isn't just Christians in America telling you this, you've been told these things from people in England, South Africa, South America, mainland Europe, and your own backyard in NZ. How many more times do people need to point these things out to you in excruciating detail before it sinks in? Consider this, if everyone around you seems delusional...maybe it isn't them...maybe you're the one that's actually suffering from delusions.

[Sparko]

I mention it just about every single time you post on the Bible. I usually start off with something like "As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about", because it's obvious to everyone that you don't; I then completely dismantle whatever nonsense you're blathering on about, and demonstrate how your views are either entirely of your own invention (which you sometimes even admit to!), complete misinterpretations of actual mainstream material, or so fringe that you might as well have made the views up yourself. We've all indicated on many MANY occasions that the views that you professed to have had when you thought of yourself as a great Christian thinker were far from normative for orthodox Christianity. You've expressed equally non-normative views coming from the church you say you once attended. How many of those views were actually coming from that church, or how many you simply misinterpreted or invented we'll probably never know, but every indication points to the fact that it was basically a cult of some sort, since they were so radically divorced from anything you'll find in orthodoxy. And remember, this isn't just Christians in America telling you this, you've been told these things from people in England, South Africa, South America, mainland Europe, and your own backyard in NZ. How many more times do people need to point these things out to you in excruciating detail before it sinks in? Consider this, if everyone around you seems delusional...maybe it isn't them...maybe you're the one that's actually suffering from delusions.

That.

[Starlight]

We've all indicated on many MANY occasions that the views that you professed to have had when you thought of yourself as a great Christian thinker were far from normative for orthodox Christianity.

I think that what makes me despair most about your sanity is your apparent inability to distinguish my disagreement that your form of Christianity is the correct interpretation of the bible, with the idea that I don't understand your form of Christianity. You seem to be fundamentally unable to grasp the idea that I studied a wide variety of Christian denominations teachings and a wide variety of scholars and formed my own views about what the best biblical interpretations were. I don't know what is wrong with your brain, but you literally don't seem to understand that basic concept. Time and time and time again you disingenuously equate the "he doesn't agree with what I call orthodox Christianity" with "he doesn't know what orthodox Christianity teaches". I used to just assume you were a completely dishonest person and that your MO was to deliberately troll people by deliberately misrepresenting them. But I've come to realize that the misrepresentations on your part weren't intentional and that it was a product of a seriously messed up psyche and that you've got serious problems which is why I generally no longer respond to you.

[Apologiaphoenix]

When I see someone who cannot be wrong in anything, I wonder why I should think they are right in anything.

[Adrift]

I think that what makes me despair most about your sanity is your apparent inability to distinguish my disagreement that your form of Christianity is the correct interpretation of the bible, with the idea that I don't understand your form of Christianity. You seem to be fundamentally unable to grasp the idea that I studied a wide variety of Christian denominations teachings and a wide variety of scholars and formed my own views about what the best biblical interpretations were. I don't know what is wrong with your brain, but you literally don't seem to understand that basic concept. Time and time and time again you disingenuously equate the "he doesn't agree with what I call orthodox Christianity" with "he doesn't know what orthodox Christianity teaches". I used to just assume you were a completely dishonest person and that your MO was to deliberately troll people by deliberately misrepresenting them. But I've come to realize that the misrepresentations on your part weren't intentional and that it was a product of a seriously messed up psyche and that you've got serious problems which is why I generally no longer respond to you.

This is very simple Starlight, and when you read it hopefully you'll see our interactions in a completely different light.

The reason why I don't make the distinction you so desperately want me to make is because when you go into one of your diatribes you rarely express that the totally nutty views you espouse are your own invention, or are wildly unorthodox. You often post as though the views and interpretations you hold are standard or mainstream or orthodox or normative, or whatever. In fact, sometimes you even state that they're normal. If you consistently started your posts with something like "this is my own nutjob idea about x,y, and z," I might give you more slack, but you don't do that, so I and others are forced to lay the smackdown on you.

Again, I'm not the only one who takes issue with you on this. I came into this conversation after two other posters had already mentioned it. So if this is an issue with my psyche then I'm not the only sufferer. Apparently a great many people on this forum are suffering. Again, consider that if everyone seems "messed up" but you, then maybe its you that's "messed up".

[One Bad Pig]

I'm baffled by the way this utterly delusional talking point keeps being repeated over and over again by TWeb's most delusional morons as if it would make it true. Is it too much to ask for a couple of examples of what it's actually based on? I have no clue what it was that I said or did that is being alleged to show I have don't have the knowledge that I do... somehow the "you know nothing!" crowd here doesn't ever seem to feel the need to actually mention any specific examples when they make these bizarre claims.

I'll take your hyperbolic, vituperative language here as a tacit admission that what I said was exactly on point, and all you're doing is emotionally reacting to something that hit close to home.

[Sparko]

I think that what makes me despair most about your sanity is your apparent inability to distinguish my disagreement that your form of Christianity is the correct interpretation of the bible, with the idea that I don't understand your form of Christianity. You seem to be fundamentally unable to grasp the idea that I studied a wide variety of Christian denominations teachings and a wide variety of scholars and formed my own views about what the best biblical interpretations were. I don't know what is wrong with your brain, but you literally don't seem to understand that basic concept. Time and time and time again you disingenuously equate the "he doesn't agree with what I call orthodox Christianity" with "he doesn't know what orthodox Christianity teaches". I used to just assume you were a completely dishonest person and that your MO was to deliberately troll people by deliberately misrepresenting them. But I've come to realize that the misrepresentations on your part weren't intentional and that it was a product of a seriously messed up psyche and that you've got serious problems which is why I generally no longer respond to you.

No you have actually made claims as to "what Christians believe" and have been wrong. That is what he is talking about.

[Christianbookworm]

No you have actually made claims as to "what Christians believe" and have been wrong. That is what he is talking about.

For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

Oh, but since he's an atheist, that makes him soooo much smartier than us dummy Christians. He knows more that the top theologians do!

[Jedidiah]

I'm baffled by the way this utterly delusional talking point keeps being repeated over and over again by TWeb's most delusional morons as if it would make it true. Is it too much to ask for a couple of examples of what it's actually based on? I have no clue what it was that I said or did that is being alleged to show I have don't have the knowledge that I do... somehow the "you know nothing!" crowd here doesn't ever seem to feel the need to actually mention any specific examples when they make these bizarre claims.

Will you start the thread I suggested to demonstrate your actual understanding?

[JimL]

Does Religion Make You Stupid?

No, it is only an indicator of ones naivete.

[37818]

No, it is only an indicator of ones naivete.

". . . Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world. . . ." -- James 1:27