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      Quote Originally posted by Littlejoe9763 View Post
      You know, in answer to the OP..."Preterism is Dangerous" a similar case can be made for Futurism. When I was a teenager, I read Hal Lindsey's "The Late Great Planet Earth. By this time, I had pretty much decided that God wasn't any more real than the easter bunny or Santa Claus. But I distinctly remember thinking..."if any of this stuff starts happening, then I'll know God is real and I can become a christian then...until then, I won't worry about it..." What if between then and when I became a christian, I had died? So futurism has a false sense of having a second chance during the tribulation of accepting Christ. I was a futurist for many years after coming to Christ, but so many things simply create issues in the view that I had to seriously consider it's truth. It's why I am no longer a futurist. I honestly am not 100% sold on Preterism, but so far, it has made the most sense to me.

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      Yes, I read Hal, too, and believed it, because I was told to. This is how people get their minds made up for them, without allowing God to reveal a different scenario.

      Partial Futurism acknowledges that the Lord is still to come, while rejecting the 'pretribulation rapture' and a horrific seven years like hell on earth with monsters.

      Jesus is to remain seated at God's right hand, Psalm 110:1-2, until his enemies have been made a footstool for his feet, through God's Spirit in and on His people, Christians.This message is found throughout the New Testament.
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      Quote Originally posted by dizzle View Post
      Ty seriously. At first you and I constantly butted heads, but I think we have come to a liking and understanding of each other. At least I do consider you a friend. But why do you have to do that? You don't know John's heart or the hearts of those whom he respects. That is just a cheap shot because it is unrebuttable. I disagree with you, and I think some of your theology is downright looney, but I agree with some. I know you are sincere and do think about God and love God, so can you stop that kinda thing of accusing those who disagree of being without the Spirit? It is just a cheap shot.
      Well said, but tell it to the people who think you don't have a sound interpretation unless it agrees with some "expert." That is the "cheap shot" that is used constantly to suppress views not approved by the "intelligentsia."

      Experts are very often wrong.

      They need to listen to the little boy who knows the Emperor is not wearing clothes.
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      Quote Originally posted by TyRockwell View Post
      Well said, but tell it to the people who think you don't have a sound interpretation unless it agrees with some "expert." Experts are very often wrong.

      They need to listen to the little boy who knows the Emperor is not wearing clothes.
      Ty I am just asking you not to play who's is bigger with the Spirit, that's all. It just puts people immediately in a combative move, and if you really want people to consider what you say, it is counterproductive because it really is such a turn-off to conversation.

      I am getting off my soap box now.
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      Quote Originally posted by dizzle View Post
      Ty I am just asking you not to play who's is bigger with the Spirit, that's all. It just puts people immediately in a combative move, and if you really want people to consider what you say, it is counterproductive because it really is such a turn-off to conversation.

      I am getting off my soap box now.
      Yes, I admit my shortened patience with being "cheap shotted," myself. They forget that "knowledge puffs them up," as well.

      Does acceptable knowledge only come from academicians, or through a graduate's thesis?
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      Quote Originally posted by seanD View Post
      Futurism guesses just as much as preterism guesses.
      I am so quoting you on this in my blog, seanD! When they see your name in my blog; watch out world.


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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
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      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      I am so quoting you on this in my blog, seanD! When they see your name in my blog; watch out world.


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      Yep, at least I was being honest in regards to Revelation. Since preterist theologians can't collectively agree on one interpretation for the symbolism in Revelation, their hermeneutic approach must be a bit flawed as well. Notice they pepper it inhere with ridicule and arrogance because that's all they have. And I've never in my entire time being a Christian ever been accused of "verse spamming" by another Christian. That just affirms my beliefs that preterist hermeneutics isn't based on scripture, but their own inventions. Just one among many huge red flags.

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      Now here is something you dont see every day;



      You simply farted in my general direction and called that a rebuttal.
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      You simply farted in my general direction and called that a rebuttal.
      You do the same all the time, Hitch.
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      Yep, at least I was being honest in regards to Revelation. Since preterist theologians can't collectively agree on one interpretation for the symbolism in Revelation, their hermeneutic approach must be a bit flawed as well. Notice they pepper it inhere with ridicule and arrogance because that's all they have. And I've never in my entire time being a Christian ever been accused of "verse spamming" by another Christian. That just affirms my beliefs that preterist hermeneutics isn't based on scripture, but their own inventions. Just one among many huge red flags.
      I can quote Jesus Christ in support of my position
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      Quote Originally posted by Hitch View Post
      I can quote Jesus Christ in support of my position
      Let's hear it, then!
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      Quote Originally posted by TyRockwell View Post
      You do the same all the time, Hitch.
      Breathe deeply.
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      okay, that was funny.
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      Quote Originally posted by Hitch View Post
      Breathe deeply.
      You are closer to it. Don't hold your breath.
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      Quote Originally posted by Hitch View Post
      I can quote Jesus Christ in support of my position
      Verse spammer!

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      Quote Originally posted by seanD View Post
      Yep, at least I was being honest in regards to Revelation. Since preterist theologians can't collectively agree on one interpretation for the symbolism in Revelation, their hermeneutic approach must be a bit flawed as well. Notice they pepper it inhere with ridicule and arrogance because that's all they have. And I've never in my entire time being a Christian ever been accused of "verse spamming" by another Christian. That just affirms my beliefs that preterist hermeneutics isn't based on scripture, but their own inventions. Just one among many huge red flags.
      Pray tell, where I can find the Futurist theologians collectively agreed upon interpretation for the symbolism in Revelation?





      ...yeah...I thought so...

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