Pay women more...so you can fire them!

[CodewordConduit]

Not marry debt, for one. Not marry a non-virgin, for another. And not take on someone else's child. In other words, CwC, though no doubt a fine woman in other respects, would be off my and any other thinking man's to do list in short order. The sooner she learns this, the sooner she can take action to improve her position in life.

I don't date, ya nutter .

What on earth gave you the impression that I did? If I wanted a bloke to further me financially, I would marry her father for all the wrong reasons. He stands to inherit a very reasonable amount, as well as doing fine with his own projects. I'm not stuck for those sorts of options either, I just have no desire or inclination to "work" people that way in exchange for promises I don't mean, and sex I don't want.

You shouldn't talk about someone like you know them, especially when you're so off the mark that way. As for you wanting a virign, that's your thing I suppose, but it's not anything like a common position outside of your subculture. I can see the attraction in it for some, but I don't care whether a person judges me for it, because I don't want a relationship; and won't even consider it until I am financially in the right place.

So stop acting like you know all women by some generalization you have in your head.

Thank you

[Chrs]

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GET MAD ABOUT STEREOTYPES ARE THE ONES WHO RESEMBLE THE STEREOTYPES THE MOST.

Cool. How's being the rabid mysoginist treating you? If you get upset that I'm stereotyping you like that, you MUST be one!

Also, can we duck you under water? I think you're a witch - if you survive, we'll find out.

[CodewordConduit]

CWC is awesome. She's like Job, minus the faith and the happy ending.

And my opinion actually counts, because I know her better than everyone here and because I AM better than everyone here.

Thank you, I appreciate that a lot

And thank you to my other friends, especially Sam and OC (who both know well, too) for their words of kindness, as well. It means a lot

[Crow]

Cool. How's being the rabid mysoginist treating you? If you get upset that I'm stereotyping you like that, you MUST be one!

Also, can we duck you under water? I think you're a witch - if you survive, we'll find out.

But does he weigh more than a duck?

[Chrs]

But does he weigh more than a duck?

Aha, yes. That surely is the question.

[Rational Gaze]

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GET MAD ABOUT STEREOTYPES ARE THE ONES WHO RESEMBLE THE STEREOTYPES THE MOST.

By that logic, that would make me a black, lesbian, Muslim woman. Nice save.

[Epoetker]

By that logic, that would make me a black, lesbian, Muslim woman. Nice save.

Actually, given the ecumenism and big tent attitude of a lot of white people, that's perfectly possible. Even white racist prison gangs have started admitting Latinos, and I hear your BNP is courting Jewish membership. The white leadership of what shall be hereafter referred to as Nazi Mexico can say "We are all mestizo" with a straight face.

Because when white people say "we are all minorities now," they really, really mean it!

[Rational Gaze]

Actually, given the ecumenism and big tent attitude of a lot of white people, that's perfectly possible.

Even though I am a white, straight, Christian man. Nice save.

Still, I like how you endorse racism. Few people can so effectively own themselves.

[Epoetker]

Still, I like how you endorse racism. Few people can so effectively own themselves.

Everybody who isn't an idiot Labor party member endorses and practices racism.

Actually, unless you live on a street full of working-class anything in Britain, you probably do too.

[Rational Gaze]

Everybody who isn't an idiot Labor party member endorses and practices racism.

So, you're saying I'm NOT a racist. Good, you are not a complete moron. And it is spelt Labour, not Labor. Your raping of the English language is not welcome here, son.

Actually, unless you live on a street full of working-class anything in Britain, you probably do too.

I wouldn't rate my fellow working class members so highly. Then again, I live on the Isle of Wight, whose population is mostly made up of old people and chavs, the two most racist groups ever. Then again, there are increasing amounts of Sri Lankan and Chinese families here now, and most of the people around here seem to get on with them. It is just the kids and the old people who seem to be racists nowadays.

But I have found one issue in your faulty logic, if I were racist, why was my best friend during primary school a boy from Pakistan, whose parents were Muslim. And why would I constantly go to Bible camps that were full of black people? Why is my best friend at uni a guy from Iran? I must be a pretty tolerant racist then, to put up with so many people I can't stand. That doesn't sound like me, I usually tend to distance myself from people I do not like. Then again, hating someone for being a different ethnicity to me does not sound like me either. I find it amazing how you know more about me than myself. I guess I must just be a bad racist then. Sort of like how a Christian who does not believe in God is a bad Christian. I mean, you said it, so it MUST be true.

[Rational Gaze]

Oh, let me guess, I deliberately chose to do those things to "make myself look good"... even though I do not care about looking good in the eyes of others.

[Epoetker]

So, you're saying I'm NOT a racist. Good, you are not a complete moron. And it is spelt Labour, not Labor. Your raping of the English language is not welcome here, son.

I don't know what you speak over in the Japan of the Anglosphere, but it ain't no English.

I wouldn't rate my fellow working class members so highly.

I'm told that class is your big divider, rather than race. Not necessarily a good thing.

Then again, I live on the Isle of Wight, whose population is mostly made up of old people and chavs, the two most racist groups ever.

If your old people are racist, and your young people are racist, but you for some reason aren't, I'm not going to assume it's them that have the problem. Both grew up away from the explicitly leftist education that has metastisized in British schools.

Then again, there are increasing amounts of Sri Lankan and Chinese families here now, and most of the people around here seem to get on with them.

Whatever. I lived in Orange County, CA, and all the high-IQ whites, Indians, Persians, and East Asians that could afford to live there got along perfectly too.

It is just the kids and the old people who seem to be racists nowadays.

Toward whom? You live on a moneyed island for high-IQ people. You don't have the hordes of NAMs from places like Barbados, North Africa, and Pakistan that the mainland suffers from. You are Ice People. You are not Sun People and never have been.

But I have found one issue in your faulty logic, if I were racist, why was my best friend during primary school a boy from Pakistan, whose parents were Muslim.

Because you were not discriminating by race, you were discriminating by class, as the upper crust in England is wont to do. I was friends with an American black kid from an intact libertarian family while growing up, but i suffer no illusions about him being representative of the general black population at large.

And why would I constantly go to Bible camps that were full of black people?

From where in particular? From what neighborhoods? From what class?

Why is my best friend at uni a guy from Iran?

A girl that kept coming on to me in high school was from Iran too. But she was part of those upper-class Iranians who fled the Islamic revolution, so I'm not surprised that she was higher IQ and more intelligent than the Iranians we keep complaining about here.

I must be a pretty tolerant racist then, to put up with so many people I can't stand.

You never said you can't stand them. But you apparently can't stand the older or younger people of your own race-ie, your fathers and your sons. A low-IQ, lower-class white person is a pariah to you, deserving of even less respect than a lower-class person of another race. This is despite the fact that those lower class people are much more likely to work with other lower-class racial groups whom you never see. When you ignore and marginalize an entire class, why are you surprised when it turns violent or isolationist?

That doesn't sound like me, I usually tend to distance myself from people I do not like.

People whom you are not like, in other words.

Then again, hating someone for being a different ethnicity to me does not sound like me either.

I hate no one. I hate no race. I have my preferences, but I'm far braver than you when it comes to expressing them, and that has made all the difference.

I find it amazing how you know more about me than myself.

Honestly I was just trying to be funny at first, but it appears that two white people raised in a contemporary Christian environment in the middle of a high-IQ ethnic enclave WILL meet almost exactly the same races. Who knew? Stereotypes are reliable!

I guess I must just be a bad racist then.

You're a bad moralizer and an even worse classist in the myopic IQ-denying liberal way, but haven't had enough experience with a wide enough variety of races to be a racist yet. There are ways of curing this, though I wouldn't inflict them on you willingly.

[Rational Gaze]

I don't know what you speak over in the Japan of the Anglosphere, but it ain't no English.

England is in Europe, not Japan. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but your, interesting, i,e, wrong, views on Geography are as equally poor as your linguistic skills.

I'm told that class is your big divider, rather than race. Not necessarily a good thing.

I suppose so. Now that the Conservatives are back in, it is probably going to get worse.

If your old people are racist, and your young people are racist, but you for some reason aren't, I'm not going to assume it's them that have the problem.

Exactly.

Both grew up away from the explicitly leftist education that has metastisized in British schools.

What a coincidence, so did I. That is because there is no such thing as an "explicitly lefist education", seeing as how the only parties in recent history that have been in power in the UK are the Conservatives, who are right wing, and Labour, who are centrists. The only time the Liberal Democrats have been in power was before WWII. Your knowledge of politics, and British history, is just as hideous as your knowledge of geography and linguistics.

Whatever. I lived in Orange County, CA, and all the high-IQ whites, Indians, Persians, and East Asians that could afford to live there got along perfectly too.

Then how come you turned out to be such a racist, misogynistic, classist psychopath? I would also point IQ is not synonymous for class. Then again you, being a racist, mysogynistic, classist psychopath, would probably not know that.

Toward whom?

Mostly asian people nowadays.

You live on a moneyed island for high-IQ people.

No, I live on a craphole full of morons.

You don't have the hordes of NAMs from places like Barbados, North Africa, and Pakistan that the mainland suffers from. You are Ice People. You are not Sun People and never have been.

Actually, we do. I also find it interesting how you use the term 'suffers'. That's right, because people of other races are things we must "suffer" according to Epoetker. Nice save.

Because you were not discriminating by race, you were discriminating by class, as the upper crust in England is wont to do.

Of course I was, even though I am working-class.

I was friends with an American black kid from an intact libertarian family while growing up, but i suffer no illusions about him being representative of the general black population at large.

Says the guy who has constantly made broad sweeping generalisations about entire races, countries, classes, not to mention gender. Oh, DO go on!

From where in particular? From what neighborhoods? From what class?

I don't pay attention to meaningless crap like that. I'm not obsessed about judging other people based on their race, class, or gender as you are wont to do.

A girl that kept coming on to me in high school was from Iran too. But she was part of those upper-class Iranians who fled the Islamic revolution, so I'm not surprised that she was higher IQ and more intelligent than the Iranians we keep complaining about here.

I love how you keep saying people who are a higher class have a higher IQ than their lower class counterparts, yet maintain I am discriminating by class. Nice save.

You never said you can't stand them.

That is the first step. Admitting that you are wrong.

But you apparently can't stand the older or younger people of your own race-ie, your fathers and your sons. A low-IQ, lower-class white person is a pariah to you, deserving of even less respect than a lower-class person of another race.

Incorrect. I can't stupid deliberately stupid people. People who revel in wilful ignorance, in being hateful, and in being horrible to others for no reason. People such as yourself, who are found in every race, in every class, in both genders. You may want to check your reflection in the mirror. There is a certain four letter word tattoed to your forehead that, whilst glaringly obvious to anybody with a modicum of intelligence, is miraculously invisible to yourself.

This is despite the fact that those lower class people are much more likely to work with other lower-class racial groups whom you never see.

No, they are not.

When you ignore and marginalize an entire class, why are you surprised when it turns violent or isolationist?

I don't. Which begs the question, why do you? When you are a racist, misogynistic, classist psycopath, why are you surprised when people treat you like a dog turd they have just stepped in?

[quote=Epoetker;3093928]People whom you are not like, in other words.
Exactly. I am not a deliberately stpid, racist, misogynistic, classist psycopath who revels in wilful ignorance, in being hateful and in being horrible to people for no reason, and I can not stand people who are.

I hate no one. I hate no race. I have my preferences, but I'm far braver than you when it comes to expressing them, and that has made all the difference.

Sorry, but being a racist, mysogynistic, classist psycopath does not make you brave. It's makes you a hateful moron.

Honestly I was just trying to be funny at first, but it appears that two white people raised in a contemporary Christian environment in the middle of a high-IQ ethnic enclave WILL meet almost exactly the same races. Who knew? Stereotypes are reliable!

Who is this supposed to describe? You? Meaningless gibberish is not an argument.

You're a bad moralizer and an even worse classist in the myopic IQ-denying liberal way, but haven't had enough experience with a wide enough variety of races to be a racist yet. There are ways of curing this, though I wouldn't inflict them on you willingly.

Uh huh, even though I'm not left-wing, or Middle/Upper class, and have met large amounts of people of other races.

[Darth Executor]

What a coincidence, so did I. That is because there is no such thing as an "explicitly lefist education", seeing as how the only parties in recent history that have been in power in the UK are the Conservatives, who are right wing, and Labour, who are centrists.

Your conservative party doesn't even qualify as center-left, let alone "right wing".

Here are some "conservative" staples off their site:

Government health care.
"The Government believes that the NHS is an important expression of our national values"

Welfare:
"The Government believes that we need to encourage responsibility and fairness in the welfare system."

And of course, two right wing favorites right here, affirmative action and government subsidies of personal relationships:
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/..._Equality.aspx

I can't find a single conservative stance anywhere on their site. If someone showed me that site and told me it belonged to the Democratic party, I'd ask "they moved even further left?"

Just because they have conservative in their name does not mean they're actually conservative. Ideologically, they're indistinguishable from liberals. Just because they're to the right of Stalin does not make them right wing.

[Darth Executor]

In other words, you don't know anything about British politics. Nice save.

Uh huh. I quoted standard liberal doctrine from your "conservative" party's platform. Feel free to quote the opposite. You won't, and can't, because you have no idea what "right wing" even is.