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  • Arguing What You Don't Understand

    Do you know what you're talking about?

    The link can be found here.

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    When should you speak and when should you be silent? Let's plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    I notice many times in debates with skeptics that they are often not really attacking Christianity as it is, but rather as they perceive it. If they want to critique the Bible on faith, they look at what they think people mean by the word faith today. What has happened that people have discussions like this?

    The great problem we have is that people no longer read what they argue about. Instead, in the age of the internet, it is too easy to believe things that agree with you and be a skeptic of everything that disagrees with you. As a conservative in the last election, I saw many people sharing myths about Obama and Hillary that I could show were false with some brief searching. No one seemed to care. It's not just conservatives. Liberals do the exact same thing.

    Tell a Christian that there are chariot wheels at the bottom of the Red Sea despite it being of highly questionable credibility and it will be believed and trumpeted as proof immediately. Tell them that there could possibly be evidence for evolution, and it will be ruled out automatically. Tell an atheist that Jesus is a copycat of Mithras, even though you found it on a website of someone with no credentials in the field and it will be believed. Tell them that there's archaeological evidence backing the book of Acts, and here comes the skepticism.

    I dare say that as a Christian, I think I am more of a skeptic than many skeptics that I meet. I will happily investigate claims that benefit my own viewpoint before sharing them. My father-in-law is a New Testament scholar who is a Christian and yet I have investigated many of the things that he's told me before going off and sharing them. That's just basic fact-checking.

    This can also be seen by how willing you are to read. Suppose you're like me and on a tight budget. If I get told about a book that argues against Christianity, normally, I go to the library and see if I can order it immediately. I have often asked skeptics when was the last time they read an academic work on Christianity that disagreed with them. I don't remember the last time I got an answer.

    Here's a basic rule of thumb. If you are not willing to seriously study an issue, don't argue it. If you are a Christian not willing to study evolution, but you want to argue against it, then don't. You will end up saying things that are not taken seriously by your critics and damaging your witness to them. In the same way, skeptics wanting to argue against the New Testament need to read the best scholarship they can on both sides of the New Testament. If they're not willing to do that, then they should not argue against it.

    The reason we have this is that we live in an age that we think being fair means everyone has equal authority in their opinion and there is no specialized knowledge. If you think this is true, next time you're sick, go see your mechanic instead of going to your doctor and let him perform an examination on you. If you think that sounds utterly ridiculous, then congratulations on waking up.

    I hope to someday soon see a world where people will read and then argue. At least if we disagree, we can then have better informed disagreements. I am instead seeing too many people think they are authorities by virtue of having an opinion and saying things that make the experts cringe, on both sides.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters

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    This is especially bad on Facebook. I cringe when I see some of the stuff my friends post about almost every subject, from politics, to religion, to diets. Just a cursory google search shows they are fake or wrong. I check everything before commenting on it or sharing it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      This is especially bad on Facebook. I cringe when I see some of the stuff my friends post about almost every subject, from politics, to religion, to diets. Just a cursory google search shows they are fake or wrong. I check everything before commenting on it or sharing it.


      There was a discussion on Reddit earlier about the Trinity and people where ridiculing it, saying things like (paraphrasing here) "When Jesus prayed to God, Trinitarians believe he prayed to Himself" and "Trinitarians believe Jesus sacrificed Himself on the cross to appease himself"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post


        There was a discussion on Reddit earlier about the Trinity and people where ridiculing it, saying things like (paraphrasing here) "When Jesus prayed to God, Trinitarians believe he prayed to Himself" and "Trinitarians believe Jesus sacrificed Himself on the cross to appease himself"

        That's modalism.
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        • #5
          It would be better to say "That's Modalism, Patrick."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
            It would be better to say "That's Modalism, Patrick."
            You and me have great taste. But none of the people here are named patrick.
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              Do you think it really matters if anyone here is named Patrick, Patrick?

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